Car sound for 40+ years old ????????????????

gladrock · #1 04-04-2008, 10:43 PM

I need some help to figure out what speakers and amps i need for a good quaulity sound for my style of music (good base, not doof doof) for my VZ Maloo ute?

I was thinking a 10" sub behind each seat, tweeters on the dash and some good mids in the doors but i get lost when they start talking RMS, 2 & 4 ohs, how many amps i need and what power?

I just want a good loud sound, without overkilling it, any help would be greatly appreatiated

savage1987 · #2 05-04-2008, 01:34 AM

If in doubt go overkill, then tune the system down to suit. You'll have nice clear sound at no risk of breaking anything. I built a system I thought would do the job but I asked too much of it and ended up frying a sub. This time around I'm using better quality gear.

If you really need help picking parts you'll need to start with a budget (roughly) and someone will be able to give you an idea from there

Sam

djeyecon · #3 05-04-2008, 11:02 AM

The car audio tech at work told me it's not very hard to get a good sound in a ute because the cabin is so small.
For my ute, I was looking at getting just one 10" slimline pioneer sub, a good set of components, tweeters and a dvd head deck.
My mate has just 2 6x9's in his ute and sounds fantastic.

KP

djeyecon · #4 05-04-2008, 11:05 AM

One more thing, as Sam said, let us know what kind of budget you have so you can get a better idea of bang for your buck.

gladrock · #5 05-04-2008, 12:59 PM

Thanks For the replies,

I want to spend about $1000 on subs, speakers and amp. I dont want to change the factory head unit so i got a PHREDDY pre amp mod for it.

do you think 2 10"subs is too much?

adamc11 · #6 05-04-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gladrock

Thanks For the replies,

I want to spend about $1000 on subs, speakers and amp. I dont want to change the factory head unit so i got a PHREDDY pre amp mod for it.

do you think 2 10"subs is too much?

Hey mate
Go to JB Hi-Fi for the 30% off sale. It ends tomorrow (sunday 6/4). I got about $1550 worth of stuff for $1088.
- JL audio 6" VR splits (normally $379)
- JL 6x9's (normally $219)
- JL audio 300/4 amp (4 x 75W outputs). Was the display model and was the last they had (i rang a few jb's and they all have only 1 left, their display one).. apparently it is being replaced for a version 2 which is practically the same. It was reduced from $899 to about $698 as it was a clearance item, then down to $488 with the 30%.
- Kicker wiring kit (normally $189)
- VY rear speaker grilles

Not sure of speaker setup in the ute... it only has front speakers yes? No rears? If this is the case, go get yourself a JL amp, one subby should be ample and some front JL audio VR splits (not the TR, the VR are better) and a good wiring kit (the kicker CK44 is what i got). Should come in under 1k and you'll be rockin

Edit: Or preferably what you might want to do is mount 6x9's instead of the subby. They give you good base as well as more.. whats the word, vocals..?

savage1987 · #7 05-04-2008, 10:56 PM

oh yeah make sure you pile some dynamat or other top quality soundproofing under the door skins, it'll bring out the midrange (vocals etc) very clearly no matter what door speakers you get.

gladrock · #8 06-04-2008, 01:18 PM

Thanks for your time,

Where would i get DYNAMAT from,, are there other brands that do the same thing?

adamc11 · #9 07-04-2008, 08:55 AM

Hi guys,
Just an update on how the install went. Took me a fair few hours to install everything, but it sounds much better than it used to.
The amp supports low and high input modes, and seeing that i don't have phreddys mod yet, i switched it to high and used the speaker wiring out of the head unit and made them into rca cables. Sounds good but i can imagine how much better it will sound with phreddys mod.
Mounted the amp in the boot under the parcel tray and neatly hid all the wires. It's very neat and tidy.
In my opinion it could also use a sub (i have a kenwood one and a pretty average audioline amp to run it) but seeing as the head unit only has 4 rca's, i don't know if this is possible.... is it?

savage1987 · #10 07-04-2008, 01:15 PM

gladrock, most stereo shops will sell dynamat or something similar. The only thing to be careful of is the spray-on bitumen style soundproofing, on a really hot day it can melt and run a bit. Not ideal, so stay away from spray-on stuff. Dynamat is a great quality soundproofing with an adhesive backing and can be cut to shape. If you don't soundproof anything else make sure you do around the door skins to really bring out the midrange. Nothing worse than a system with loads of bass, treble and no midrange (like mine!)

Sam

gladrock · #11 07-04-2008, 06:19 PM

Thanks for your replies!

savage1987, i have found some sound deadner on ebaylooks like DYNAMAT! anyone heard how this stuff compares to DYNAMAT?

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ADAMC11, I am also interested about the 4 RCA, Can someone help us on this???? Is this where cross overs come in????

Cobez · #12 07-04-2008, 07:23 PM

I haven't really heard of anything of equal quality to Dynamat that ISN'T Dynamat. Save up some more cash and buy Dynamat off ebay. You can get an extreme bulk pack for $250 which is pretty cheap. At least you know it works well. I used it in my boot. Very happy.

johnnie5 · #13 07-04-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adamc11

In my opinion it could also use a sub (i have a kenwood one and a pretty average audioline amp to run it) but seeing as the head unit only has 4 rca's, i don't know if this is possible.... is it?

either use a 4 channel amp for the rear , or use a Y splitter to split the rear RCA's into 2 amps