Hey guys I'm just curious as to peoples opinions of what sort of money is worthwhile towards a sound system. I have a quote from a professional company quoting $2400 for a system installed in my ute.
I asked for a decent system for listening to rock music, as i felt the car lacked a tinge of bass and any enthusiasm in the mids. The parts quoted are as follows:
Speakers: PUF-Z16 MB Quart
Amplifier: T600-Z Rockford
Accessories: Wiring + Sound Deadening (quoted at around 700 for the dynamatting)
Equiptment came valued at $1650.
My main concern is with such a small cabin space, am i going to really notice any quality sound or will i just be subjecting myself to a hell of a lot of noise? Can i for a lower $ recieve the same quality in sound, and are the parts really suitable?
I did ask the dealer to ensure the integrity of the car remained as intact as possible visually, i wanted people to notice the sound improvement not some massive subwoofer behind my seat, if any system is suggested i would like it to only replace the speakers already installed and hopefully not require any boxes being installed. Thanks guys any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated as always!
Your biggest disadvantage, being cabin space, will also be your biggest advantage. Being that whatever you install, it dosen't have to project the sound as far as say a typical sedan/wagon setup..You will definately notice sound quality differences in a smaller space. It's like listening to a Ipod dock in your bedroom, then taking to to the centre of a Football field...get it??
Never go with the first thing you see and hear, and take your time, learn a thing or two about the products you have been shown and are interested in buying...
Last edited by HCVP; 08-05-2009 at 07:40 PM.
Its a special kind of Gold Plated Dynamat ...OP seriously though, they must have seen you coming. Any body's who know's or sell's car audio, can pick out pretty quickly whether or not the person they are talking to has any clue.. I suggest taking some one along with you, when your looking. And know what your looking for, if you just roll in there with no idea and say yeah mate, got a ute, want a system, of course there going to take you straight to thier premium products. Just like any where you go...
Mate I would say do it your self, there really isn't much to it if you can use a soldering iron. Get some good speakers an amp and some heat shrink and do it all your self, I done my car and I installed Head unit, 4 speakers 2 subs and amp all in about 2 hours and that was soldering, wiring and install. it will save you a lot of money. $2400 seems a bit excessive Mine cost me around $1200 and I'm very happy with the end result.
Stroker, mate,THERE IS A LOT TO IT, hence why we have Car Audio installers in the first place... and judging by his knowledge of Car Audio, i think it's safe to assume this will be a paid installation job. And it's not worth him running the risk with a brand new VE is it.....
holdencommodorevp you make a fair point, but I wouldn't say there is a lot to it, I mean we have people who wash dogs, there's not a lot to that now is there, just because there is a job for people to do it doesn't make it hard. But considering it is a new VE he could have someone else do it but I would personally do it my self.
I was hoping for a package around the 1.5k mark, i'd still like to get them to install it given the cars only a few months old, that way it has a warranty for the installation and such. I'd hate to do an upgrade that turns into an over budgeted mess.
Has anyone put in this dynamat in the ute? Will i really get 700 dollars worth of quality out of it? I think the most noise you get out of that ute is coming up from the tires.
I'll do a few more weeks of searching around, perhaps i can go back to him with a new budget as well. $1,500 seems a sensible limit to this sort of job, i just hope for a big gain in quality over the stock system.
whereabouts are you located? we could probably recommend some reputable stores...
$700 for the dynamat is alot of $$$
i dont think you system will need the stuff.
spend the $$$$ on a subwoofer for under a seat, i have this one in mine TS-WX11A.
its 150watts with built in amp.
ask you dealer if he can find you one, together with what he wants to sell you, your system will be fine..... and just forget the dynamat...
I much rather take the dynamat than a cheap underpowered sub...
A 150 watt sub???? your kidding right?? OP, just like when your in the shop, be careful as to who you chose to take advice from-
hear it before you jugde m8....
Proper application of dynamat will lower the resonant frequency of the surface its applied to.. So it will stop surfaces from resonating woth your music. Theoretically it lowers road noise aswell. The best use for it I've found is to apply it in doors along with sealing service holes with mdf or similar. This will make sort of a speaker box for your mid drivers, tightening up the sound etc.
A good quality pair of splits installed properly will sound a lot better than a crap pair installed poorly with a poor quality sub backing them up.
I'm really not after a sub i don't listen to much bass orientated music and i'd prefer to not have room taken up by a sub. The speakers he suggested he trialed for me, they sounded amazingly good (on a wall in a store anyway), but i'm more interested in knowing if i can simply go to 300 dollar speakers and hardly notice the difference.
I live in Clayton, Victoria. Am willing to travel pretty much anywhere around Melbourne for a good service![]()
Looks like you've got some quality gear. if you want to compare 2 diff speakers (what u quoted above and the cheaper $300 ones,) just make sure that they dont change the amplifier or player or anything when they swap between the 2 on the sound board. And the head decks they use make a much crisper sound then what a stock holden head unit will too, from my experience. Sure the dynamat will keep the sound down outside the car, and keep the music inside, I'd just find it hard to justify $700 on it. But if thats what you want from your system, go for it! Get many quotes first too. i shopped around a few strathfield type stores, a few car audio places, and ended up with lifestyle audio.
my 2c
why is it poor ? because you cant hear the bass from 2 streets away.
its in a ute, not a bus.
dynamat will stop surfaces from resonating and lowers road noise aswell true but $700 is still alot of cash and i dont think you will notice $700 worth in the ute.
and pioneer (TS-WX11A) has'nt developt and made this product for nothing....
but ha ! its not my ute ,its just what i think
I like you style holdencommodorevp. Ok back to the issue, My mate has a ute and he put in some nice competition speakers in with an amp and the standard Holden head unit no dynamat or subs and it sounds sweet very loud and crisp with good base also. like holdencommodrevp was saying cause its such a small space it works to your advantage. My advice would be stick with well known brand speakers and an amp that is suited to the RMS wattage of the speakers not the peak wattage.
I think from what everyone says, my best bet seems to be that i stick to a lower budget and ask for a more competitive price on dynamatting and hardware. It seems a few people suggest changing the head unit and installing a sub but again I'd like to keep the car visually looking as original as possible so i might leave the stock head in there and not go with a sub.
Weekends finally come so I'll go check out a few other audio shops, hopefully they can come through with a few good options. Thanks for you help guys i'll let you know what sort of progress I've made soon!
You can add a sub, and it not be overly visual. A sub is an essential part of an audio set up. It's not just there to shake the car, it's designed to produce the lower frequencies that your Midrange/Tweeters can't provide..Without it, you won't hear the music being re-produced in all detail...As far as Dynamat goes, I havent seen any of the VE's factory deadning, but Dynamat is always a good idea, if you can afford that little bit extra. But by no means $700 for 2 doors...
Went into another audio shop and asked for something to compete with the previous system. He offered mb quart speakers and rockford amp again now in a 4 channel amp, he insisted on an amp just in a box behind the passenger controlled by a bass volume controller mounted neatly in the car. He suggested dynamat around the speakers but not throughout the entire door. And offered the entire setup for just under $2000.
He also offered a very simple $300 job, if i wanted to avoid the amp and sub. He'd simply replace the speakers in the car with 6.5" mb quart speakers of a slightly lower quality than in the $2000 package.
$2000 is well within my budget, and the process sounded quite neat. Would i be looking at a better package for my money now do you think if i went and spend the 2000 dollars?
Let me get this right, all your getting for 2grand, is a pair of speakers and an amp installed, right??
hang on, do i read this right? $2400 for a set of splits an amp and some dynomat?
this joint must be on everest cus they can see everyone coming!!
First question, why do you need a 4 channel amp if all your running is splits and no sub?
Second question, how did they come to $1650 just for parts, T162S-$399RRP + T600-4=$730RRP
now unless my maths is shithouse thats only $1130?? what wiring costs $520?!?
dude, stay away from that joint...
Get someone that knows about stereos to go with you, seriously for $2500 i'd be expecting atleast 1 good quailty sub, 7" indash touch screen headunit, an amp and out of this world splits, installed..
Last edited by BANKS; 10-05-2009 at 12:52 PM.
May i suggest a few bottles of NOS and a runway instead, would sound just as nice![]()