Help!!1 D=

[Chalky01]

Thanks to anyone who reads this for starters.
Me and my pop have been installing my audio system. Pretty much 2 subs in the boot and to replace the two rear speakers. Its a 1000 watt amp so it can run all the 4. What we've done is we ran 2 cables from the existing cables to the rear speakers, to the amp instead so they just bypass the speakers. Then we just doubled a sub and a speaker from one read jack, and the other 2 from the other. We ran a signal wire from the head unit and all the power leads necessary.

Now to the problem, lol. When we turn on the car, the speakers and subs dont work (but the amp gets power) until we replug the audio in at the amp, then it works. Everyone ive asked is absolutely baffled, lol

Thanks for your help,
Chalky

[HCVP]

Ok, first you are going to have to work on your punctuation a little bit, i had to read your post 3 times, until i could begin to understand it...lol. Ok, now you've tapped into the rear speaker wire to get a signal to send to your subs right? Are you using a line out converter, or otherwise, how are you filtering the frequencies going to the subs, because i'm assuming you using a standard head unit....When you say you ran all power leads as nessacary, did you purchase an amp wiring kit? What exactly do you mean, by re-plugging the audio, into the amp?

[holdenboy]

Yep im with the above post mate, you'll have to explain it a little better.

Maybe draw up a simple diagram of how youve got things connected?

[cxcxcxvcvcvc]

Two things that will help is:

(1) If possible take photos of how you have wired everything up & post them up so everyone who want's to help can see, or as said draw a diagram!

(2) Go into your head deck settings and check to see if there is a subwoofer on/off setting!
Hope this helps mate

[bezz]

Is the amp a 2 channel or 4 channel?
If i read this correctly you are running a speaker and a sub from each channel?
Are you using a LOC like holdecommodorevp asked, or have you run RCAs from the pre-out of an aftermarket head unit?

[Chalky01]

Hey, really sorry about the punctuation. Was in abit of a hurry lol. Ill add in a diagram of the wiring. About holdencommodorevp comment, yes i bought a amp wiring kit. Btw dont ever buy rampage! all the pre terminations were stuffed lol. As i said before, ive used the existing wiring from the head unit to the speakers, placed a connection and continued the wire to the amp. I know i know the pictures are in paint, hope you can understand them.

With the problem. The cables in question are the Audio In on the amp. When the car is on, the audio doesnt want to seem to go through to the amp. But when its taken out (the audio In), then placed back into the Audio In on the amp, Violah! the music plays.
Thanks!

[bezz]

can you give us the brand name and model number of the amp?

[Chalky01]

Well i think my pops done it wrong. Its a four channel, but because apparently i need the 'balance' hes doubled 1 sub and 1 speaker into the rear left, and the other sub and speaker goes into the rear right.

[bezz]

Well i think my pops done it wrong. Its a four channel, but because apparently i need the 'balance' hes doubled 1 sub and 1 speaker into the rear left, and the other sub and speaker goes into the rear right.

Run the rear speakers off the front channels of the amp, subs off the rear channels of the amp.

Also with your input to the amp, generally you should be using RCAs from the head unit as these are a low level signal, and shouldnt be using a high level signal from your speaker wires (unless you install a LOC). There are some amps that are an exception to the rule but I haven't seen one in years and I doubt that is the case here. Once again though, I'll be able to answer all your questions once you give me brand and model number of the amp

[Chalky01]

Its a Streamline STL1000, its a 1000 watt amp. It says its Stereo Bridged and 'Maximum power' (so cheesy).
Thanks for your help!!

[Chalky01]

So i pretty much have to re-run a wire from the headunit to the amp? =D

Thanks!

[HCVP]

from the looks of your diagram you have supplied, you only have 2 channel?/

[Chalky01]

Its a 4 channel, but my pop insists on the 'Balance' so he doubled up on the connections

[bezz]

Its a 4 channel, but my pop insists on the 'Balance' so he doubled up on the connections

'balance' is unnecessary. First of all the human ear can't hear the direction of subbass frequencies (these frequencies are omnidirectional). Second of all connecting the speakers in that way will present a lower impedence to the amp, which it probably can't handle. Thirdly, your power output will be cripplied, and I guarantee you will be sending a clipped signal to all your speakers/subs, potentially burning voice coils. Finally, you will be unable to properly set up any filter or crossover, meaning that the subs will be receiving the entire frequency range of sounds, as opposed to less then ~85Hz.

[HCVP]

Firstly, yes, never buy a Rampage product, secondly, keep your Pop away from your Stereo install lol... You will need to run a line out converter, this will convert your speaker wire, into an RCA, this will go into the rear input. You then connect your sub's, to the two rear channels. At the moment you are running the subs, at full pass, meaning they are being sent all frequencies, you only want the lows. Connect the remaining speaker wire to the front input, and connect your rear speakers to the the 2 front channels.

[HCVP]

bezz beat me to it again...

[Chalky01]

Thanks so much mate!!!
Would that be a reason why the speakers would have static too? Geez id give you $50 if you were here, lol.
Thanks again!

[bezz]

So i pretty much have to re-run a wire from the headunit to the amp? =D

Thanks!

RCAs specifically. You will probably need to split the pair of RCAs again so that you can send an input to all 4 channels. Fix this and your speaker config and all should be good

[Chalky01]

Haha yea ill get a restraining order on my pop for the cars general well-being, lol

[bezz]

bezz beat me to it again...

touch typing is fun

[Chalky01]

So by re-arranging the input of the channels and the wire from the headunit, would that also fix the problem with it not running when the cars turned on? Btw, i knew there was a reason why i joined the JC community!!!

[HCVP]

Are you using a stock head unit? We need to know that first..That part was never established, i just made the assumption because you were tapping lines for signal..

[Chalky01]

Well i think its a stock 6 stacker. I bought the car with it in there.
Thanks heaps btw

[holdenboy]

Is the head-unit a Eurovox tape player?

[Chalky01]

Its definitely not a Eurovox, its a well known brand.. just cant remember the name, lol. Im about 90% sure that its a JVC. Thanks!