Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Need Help......

  1. #1
    kindo is offline kindo
    Ride
    vz s ute

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Woodend
    Posts
    19

    Default Need Help......

    im new to this so can you please help me. I havent decieded to either run 2x12inch subs or just one 12 inch sub off a audiobahn A8000T amp.. Just wondering what would be the best way to run the wires.... and what type of wiring i would need!!! also how do i need a special tool to remove the stock headunit?
    thanks

  2. #2
    Ride
    Bumming lifts, saving up.....

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Cairns White Rock
    Posts
    2,685

    Default

    You don't need any special tools to remove the head unit. Although if your fairly inexperienced, i suggest taking it to a specialist, and have them do it for you. Also a little more infomation would be good, like what type of head unit your using, whether it be the stock one, or an aftermarket one, only then can we tell you what wiring you will need, and how to go about it.

    As far as using either one or two subs, from what i gather, the amp is rated at 400RMS @4 ohm. Apperently it's 2 ohm rating is 800RMS, but i beg to differ on that one. I'd only be running a single sub off it. Running 2 subs would bring it down to 1 Ohm, (correct me someone if i'm wrong) So in short, just run one sub off it. 2 subs arent always better than one. Better to have a single better quality sub recieving more power, running more efficiently with a little headroom. Underpowering your subs or any speakers for that matter, can cause damage to them.

    Supply us with the remaining info,and we can help you from there..
    Last edited by HCVP; 24-07-2009 at 09:10 PM.

  3. #3
    kindo is offline kindo
    Ride
    vz s ute

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Woodend
    Posts
    19

    Default

    the headunit i will be using is a sony explod MEX-BT2600! I was also thinking of running 2 x TS-W307D2Pioneer Subwoofers, yes or no, what do you rekon? Or what single 12inch would you recommend running with this type of amp and headhunit? and what wiring kit?

  4. #4
    holdenboy's Avatar
    holdenboy is offline Custom Car Stereo Systems
    Ride
    VR Wagon

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Nelson Bay NSW
    Posts
    2,321

    Default

    He's using the stock head-unit (as he said in his last two words), you wont need any special tools though. Just two peices of thick metal from a coathanger. Bent each one into a "U" shape and insert into each side of the head-unit, then just put pressure to the outside of each side whilst pulling back towards you.

    The subwoofer situation would depend on a few things, like how much room are you willing to spare in your boot and how much money are you willing to spend. You can easily get 2 SVC 4 ohm subwoofers and run the amp at 2 ohm.

    You will need to get an amplifier wiring kit, including atleast 4awg cable, fuseholder/fuse, RCA, remote cable and some speaker cable. Youre better off buying this stuff in a kit as all the parts needed will be in there (provided its a decent kit and not a cheap one).

    Run the power / remote cables down the drivers side of the car under the side panels and the RCAs down the other.
    150db in a commodore =

  5. #5
    Coast_Calais is offline sick of the idiots here
    Ride
    varies

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    gone
    Posts
    551

    Default

    sorry to butt in, but why run 2 x SVC 12's, when you could run a single DVC 12"? You could get more literage in the single 12" box, but still be smaller overall than running two subs at minimum ltr's? Can wire DVC in any configuration as the 2 x SVC, so yeah, only benefit i could see is bling of having 2 subs (Crud svc's mind you ) instead of one...


    just a question, no need for flaming...

  6. #6
    holdenboy's Avatar
    holdenboy is offline Custom Car Stereo Systems
    Ride
    VR Wagon

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Nelson Bay NSW
    Posts
    2,321

    Default

    Probably the only real advantage of running two svc subs (or two DVC 2 ohm subs) is cone area and efficiency i suppose. Personally i would use just the one decent 12", and as you say give it a nice large box. I was just saying that because holdencommodoreVP basically ruled out 2 subs, and wanted to make sure kindo knew that he "could" run 2 subs off the amp if he wanted to.
    See, no flaming
    150db in a commodore =

  7. #7
    Ride
    Bumming lifts, saving up.....

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Cairns White Rock
    Posts
    2,685

    Default

    I hadn't ruled out using 2 subs, i wasn't sure if 2 subs could be run off that amp.( i did say someone correct me if i'm wrong...) And i suggested a better quality single, rather than a dual setup. Personally i'm against dual setups....
    Last edited by HCVP; 24-07-2009 at 11:56 PM.

  8. #8
    Coast_Calais is offline sick of the idiots here
    Ride
    varies

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    gone
    Posts
    551

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by holdenboy View Post
    Probably the only real advantage of running two svc subs (or two DVC 2 ohm subs) is cone area and efficiency i suppose. Personally i would use just the one decent 12", and as you say give it a nice large box. I was just saying that because holdencommodoreVP basically ruled out 2 subs, and wanted to make sure kindo knew that he "could" run 2 subs off the amp if he wanted to.
    See, no flaming
    cool cool, was bouncing ideas, and some members on here assume you're having a dig at them good too see there's still ppl around who prefer a practical setup as opposed to the bling factor...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldenCommodoreVP View Post
    I hadn't ruled out using 2 subs, i wasn't sure if 2 subs could be run off that amp.( i did say someone correct me if i'm wrong...) And i suggested a better quality single, rather than a dual setup. Personally i'm against dual setups....
    good good, hope we helped point ya in the right direction... two voice coils will be fine off that amp, chuck her in a good box, and appreciate great sound, and still have your boot.. one great sub is always better than two el cheapo's (But Holdenboy is dead right, an advantage is surface area with two subs, but counter acted by poor reproduction, bad power handling, and increased load on amp if using two cheap subs...)
    So one DVC 12", running in parallel, with a 2 ohm load should see plenty of power, and your amp will last forever. good luck, post some pics when ur done...

  9. #9
    kindo is offline kindo
    Ride
    vz s ute

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Woodend
    Posts
    19

    Default

    thanks everyone for your help!!...might just go with running a really good single 12inch sub off the amp.. anyone recommend something that will pump?

  10. #10
    Ride
    VE Calais-V 6.0L

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Hastings
    Posts
    3,115

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Coast_Calais View Post
    cool cool, was bouncing ideas, and some members on here assume you're having a dig at them good too see there's still ppl around who prefer a practical setup as opposed to the bling factor...
    It's not bling factor... An extra sub gives a 3dB increase. Getting a single DVC doesn't give any increase in output.

    Also, the subs he mentioned are actually DVC 2 ohm subs.

  11. #11
    Ride
    VR II Executive Manual

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    96

    Default

    And, even assuming you're pushing the same overall power (say 400W into one sub, or 200W into each of a pair), and thus the same overall volume, you'll get better sound from the pair, because they'll stay further from their mechanical excursion limits (preventing damage and ugly noises, and keeping them operating in a more linear region of the magnetic field), suffer less thermal compression, and somewhat even out certain types of distortion.

    Personally, I'm a big fan of twin 12" sealed setups.

  12. #12
    kindo is offline kindo
    Ride
    vz s ute

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Woodend
    Posts
    19

    Default

    ended up going with 2x12inch sealed pioneer champion series subbs.. getting them installed soon... hopefully they go alright!!!!!

  13. #13
    acarmody is offline Donati..Whoa Green
    Ride
    VX Berlina

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    4,466

    Default

    You won't be disappointed with two TS-W307s. I had 2 running at 700wrms, first time I turned them up it was blasting and the hairs on my shins were vibrating, bloody good, and I was running sealed too.
    -Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
    James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
    -Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
    P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
    -Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
    Ronald Reagan (1986)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71