Audiopipe Subwoofer

[holdendude]

Hey fellas,Well not knowing alot about this whole audio thing, i was looking at this sub & just wanted some advice about it! Is it worth buying or not?


DescriptionAudiopipe TXX-AP12BL Car Audio SUB-WOOFER, this sub woofer is great boasting 1500watts of power and dual voice coils. This sub is suitable and will perform well in most pre-fab boxes and custom built boxes. Powder coated blue basket, heavy duty rubber surrounds and a blue eyecandy glossy face .
Sale Price - $189.00
RRP - $499.00
1 x 12" Audiopipe subwoofer
RMS 800 watts
1600Watts
Dual 4 Ohm Voice Coils
96dB/1W/1M Sensitivity
25Hz - 800Hz Frequency
Fs 30Hz
LE 1.67
QMS 3.47
QES 0.48
QTS 0.44
VAS 1.84 CU.FT
VAS 51.5 LITRE
XMAX 0.55"
XMAX 14MM
XMAX 39.3 Hz

Any input would be great.
Cheers everyone!

[HCVP]

Persoanlly i wouldn't touch it. I've seen them before on Ebay, but i haven't seen them stocked in stores, or any where else. I also seriously doubt, that a driver for that amount of money, would handle 800 watt RMS. I think their lying out their arse too, when they say it has a retail of $500. It clearly is not a $500 sub, and even if it was, you would not get it for $189, even if it was cost price, which it obviously isn't, because a store is making money of it.

A supplier should have not have to lie, to sell a product, if the product is good enough, it will sell itself, and become reputable.

[Vg-ute-mad]

Persoanlly i wouldn't touch it. I've seen them before on Ebay, but i haven't seen them stocked in stores, or any where else. I also seriously doubt, that a driver for that amount of money, would handle 800 watt RMS. I think their lying out their arse too, when they say it has a retail of $500. It clearly is not a $500 sub, and even if it was, you would not get it for $189, even if it was cost price, which it obviously isn't, because a store is making money of it.

A supplier should have not have to lie, to sell a product, if the product is good enough, it will sell itself, and become reputable.

I agree!

Plus if it had a price tag of $500, it would have more linear excursion then 14mm. Keep your money mate, and take advantage of the current end of year sales! For that price you can do better.

[holdenboy]

Im not familiar with that brand......but it certainly looks cool, that surround is FAT!

Anyways, i agree with both comments....better off to go with a well-known brand.

[Luke0011]

One look at the sensitivity the manafacturer states screams alarm bells for me, and with a chuckle good for pre fab and custom boxes.... hahahahahaha

[Joe Bellissimo]

Yeah the sensitivity rating is up there LOL

[holdendude]

Thanks for all the replies people! Would someone like to shed some light on why it isn't that good? for ex. Sensitivity rate? why is it bad?
Just so i can learn about these things, thats all!

thanks in advance!

[holdenboy]

Well the sensitivity gives you an idea on how the woofer will perform with 1w of power. All manufacturers do this, the typical figure for a 12" subwoofer is 87-89db. Because this sub is so sensitive i dont think it'll last long with several hundred watts given to it. In other words, the 500wrms its supposed to be rated for isnt realistic and would probably be more like 200-250wrms at best.
Thats the basics of it anyway....for $190 you have plenty of choices for decent subs, heres a few examples:

Ryda Car Audio - Pioneer TS-W308D4 12" 1400W Subwoofer($178.85)
Ryda Car Audio - JBL GTO1214 12" Car Subwoofer($169.05)
Ryda Car Audio - Soundstream PW-12S - 12" Subwoofer($187.85)

[holdendude]

Well the sensitivity gives you an idea on how the woofer will perform with 1w of power. All manufacturers do this, the typical figure for a 12" subwoofer is 87-89db. Because this sub is so sensitive i dont think it'll last long with several hundred watts given to it. In other words, the 500wrms its supposed to be rated for isnt realistic and would probably be more like 200-250wrms at best.
Thats the basics of it anyway....for $190 you have plenty of choices for decent subs, heres a few examples:

Ryda Car Audio - Pioneer TS-W308D4 12" 1400W Subwoofer($178.85)
Ryda Car Audio - JBL GTO1214 12" Car Subwoofer($169.05)
Ryda Car Audio - Soundstream PW-12S - 12" Subwoofer($187.85)

Thanks for that dude! Damn i like that soundstream sub! would that be worth buying?

[Joe Bellissimo]

I'll shoot you a couple of my options too:

Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - EDGE ED512 12" Subwoofer
Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - db Drive DB12
Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - FLI Frequency 12

Still updating the site so some information is missing.

I'll also match the price on the soundstream with this: Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - VIBE Slick 12 just because I can.

[holdenboy]

Thanks for that dude! Damn i like that soundstream sub! would that be worth buying?

Yep, thats why i suggested it

[holdendude]

Yep, thats why i suggested it

Ok so i have now gone and bought 2 of these subs! YAY! $400 for both including shipping, so now i have to buy some amps to power them! any ideas?

[holdenboy]

Cool! Nice subs

Anyway, they are dual voice coil (they have 2+ and 2- terminals for each sub), so if you wire them all together (all +s together and all -s together) you'll get an impedance of 1 ohm. This great for most monoblock amplifiers. So heres a few good choices for you:

This is a great choice if you want to stay with Soundstream for the amp, a bit too much power but thats a GOOD thing IMO:
Ryda Car Audio - Soundstream PCX1500D Picasso - Amplifier($588.85)

Kenwood ~1000wrms mono, installed a few of these and like them:
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood Car Audio KAC-9104D Car Amplifier($348.85)

A few Option Audio examples, great value for money and im sure Joe will give you a good discount :
Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Option Audio OAX801
Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Option Audio OAX1502

So just a few there.....mainly the ones i would pick.

[holdendude]

Cool! Nice subs

Anyway, they are dual voice coil (they have 2+ and 2- terminals for each sub), so if you wire them all together (all +s together and all -s together) you'll get an impedance of 1 ohm. This great for most monoblock amplifiers. So heres a few good choices for you:

This is a great choice if you want to stay with Soundstream for the amp, a bit too much power but thats a GOOD thing IMO:
Ryda Car Audio - Soundstream PCX1500D Picasso - Amplifier($588.85)

Kenwood ~1000wrms mono, installed a few of these and like them:
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood Car Audio KAC-9104D Car Amplifier($348.85)

A few Option Audio examples, great value for money and im sure Joe will give you a good discount :
Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Option Audio OAX801
Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Option Audio OAX1502

So just a few there.....mainly the ones i would pick.

Are they the cheapest decent one's from Ryda?
how would these go with them?
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood Car Audio KAC-8104D Car Amplifier($208.85)
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood Car Audio KAC-7204 Car Amplifier($198.85)

[StoneX]

Neither of those amps you listed can run at 1 ohm, so neither will work with those subs f they're wired in parallel.

If you ran the coils in series and subs in parallel, you could use the Kenwood 7204 but you'd be underpowering the subs quite a bit.

[holdenboy]

Dont try and "skimp" on the amp, youve spent $400 on good quality subs so spend atleast that on an amp. As StoneX said above, the amps you suggested will not run at 1 ohm. As StoneX also said, you could wire them to 4 ohm impedance, but you'll end up spending more money to get the 700wrms thats optimal for those subs. The only other option i can think of is buying two small monoblocks that are 2 ohm stable and running each sub off each monoblock, but it'll work out the same cost if not more, theres a few other bad points about that option but i wont get into it.

The Kenwood 9104D monoblock is a great choice for the money. It has more than enough power for those subs and is the cheapest option IMO.

[holdendude]

Dont try and "skimp" on the amp, youve spent $400 on good quality subs so spend atleast that on an amp. As StoneX said above, the amps you suggested will not run at 1 ohm. As StoneX also said, you could wire them to 4 ohm impedance, but you'll end up spending more money to get the 700wrms thats optimal for those subs. The only other option i can think of is buying two small monoblocks that are 2 ohm stable and running each sub off each monoblock, but it'll work out the same cost if not more, theres a few other bad points about that option but i wont get into it.

The Kenwood 9104D monoblock is a great choice for the money. It has more than enough power for those subs and is the cheapest option IMO.

Ok thanks mate, i'll have to buy me a cople of these!
Also, i've only got wiring for 1 sub & 1 amp! can u run me thru what needs to be done please?

[holdendude]

Hey Holdenboy, with my audio system, it has already got installed wiring for 1 sub & 1 amp, would you be able to run me through the settup of changing it to house enough for the reast of it???

Also are you and good with designing sub boxes, im gonna make my own to sit between the struts on the diff hump! i've got a few different design drawn out on some paper, would i be able to send you the measurements of the space and get you to sort it out?? or anyone else for that matter?

thanks
craig

[holdenboy]

Yeah mate just pm me the dimensions etc, we'll work it out there

[holdendude]

Yeah mate just pm me the dimensions etc, we'll work it out there

No worries mate, i'll have a squiz later and pm them through with a few designs!

[holdendude]

Ok holdenboy, PM sent!!