Would a Rockford Fosgate - 3SIXTY.2 help?

[Deutscher]

Hi Audio Experts,

I'm still trying to better my car audio.

I've got:

Alpine CDA-9856 - 3pre-out deck.
SoundStream TRC6.N - 200w
SoundStream SST-05 - 100w
SoundStream TRX2.820 - 250wx2
SuperCharge 660CCA Battery with Rockford Battery Clamp.
Standard Cables to Alternator etc
Wiring for System is Alberts brand.
Dynamat on both inner and outter skin of doors with MDF cutouts to fill the gaps (with waterproof coating)

I was wondering if a Rockford 3SIXTY.1 or .2 would help my setup? or another signal processer? or possibly a newer deck?

I'm not sure if it's just the crossovers that are out but high frequencies are really high and hurt my ears sometimes.. even at low volumes (not distortion).

[holdenboy]

I'd be more inclined to go with an Alpine 9887, it has alot of sound tuning features like digital crossovers, time alignment and EQ. With a good hour or two tuning the system it should sound alot better.

[Deutscher]

I'd be more inclined to go with an Alpine 9887, it has alot of sound tuning features like digital crossovers, time alignment and EQ. With a good hour or two tuning the system it should sound alot better.

So upgrading my headunit would be more suitable than getting a Sound Processor?

I'm unfamiliar with these EQ's. Are they a waste like capacitors or are they only for top-notch equipment? more suited for SQ speakers than SPL speakers?
My speakers are more SPL speakers than SQ.

[Philthy]

You could always try just turning down the frequencies that are too loud.
Failing that, being too lazy to google myself, what type of tweeters are they? I like the warmth of soft-domes.
Even just turn down the attenuation on the tweeters if the crossovers allow you to

[bezz]

The extent at which an EQ will effect your equipment really depends on how good your ear is and how well you're able to tune it.

[Deutscher]

You could always try just turning down the frequencies that are too loud.
Failing that, being too lazy to google myself, what type of tweeters are they? I like the warmth of soft-domes.
Even just turn down the attenuation on the tweeters if the crossovers allow you to

Soundstream SST-05 1" Titanium Bullet Tweeters
*Gold Plated Trim
*Titanium Diaphragm
*1K - 20 KHz Freq. Response
*109dB Sensitivity

I got it installed by a professional.. don't even know where the crossovers are (hoping not in the door)

[Deutscher]

I'd be more inclined to go with an Alpine 9887, it has alot of sound tuning features like digital crossovers, time alignment and EQ. With a good hour or two tuning the system it should sound alot better.

If I went for a new head unit, I'd prob get a Alpine iDA-X305.
Unless there is a better make? I like the Alpine decks though.
Could pick the iDA-X305 up for ~$330-$350.

[Philthy]

I've always found titanium tweeters to be a little harsh anyway.

On an unrelated note, freq response down to 1kHz? Surely they wouldn't be run that low would they?

[Deutscher]

I've always found titanium tweeters to be a little harsh anyway.

On an unrelated note, freq response down to 1kHz? Surely they wouldn't be run that low would they?

Woudln't got a clue what they set them too. Alberts in Cannington (Perth) installed my gear.

[holdenboy]

Yeah i agree with bezz.....the EQ will only be as good as your ear and tuning knowledge. Its probably not something you would want to pay for either, tuning comes down to the way you like it.....not the guy youre paying to do it.

Why the iDA-X305? If you just want Ipod control then the 9887 has the Ipod cable available. It also sells for around the same price second hand, and $400-$500 new. The X305 dosent have the same tuning capabilities as the 9887.
You also have the option of running the splits active (no crossovers) so you choose the xover point and the slope....plus ofcourse the frequencies to boost or cut, also the q-factor (bandwidth of each frequencie you choose to cut / boost). Thats just the tweeters, then youve got the mids and the sub/s. After this is done you can set the time alignment, which basically means you can set it so all the sounds from each speaker get to you (the driver) at the same time. Mainly good when bass is delayed, as it has to come from the boot to the front seat, whereas the front speakers dont have much distance to cover.

So you can see just by that the amount of tuning options you have with the 9887, theres a few other similar head-units out there, i just suggested it as youve already got an Alpine.

[Deutscher]

Yeah i agree with bezz.....the EQ will only be as good as your ear and tuning knowledge. Its probably not something you would want to pay for either, tuning comes down to the way you like it.....not the guy youre paying to do it.

Why the iDA-X305? If you just want Ipod control then the 9887 has the Ipod cable available. It also sells for around the same price second hand, and $400-$500 new. The X305 dosent have the same tuning capabilities as the 9887.
You also have the option of running the splits active (no crossovers) so you choose the xover point and the slope....plus ofcourse the frequencies to boost or cut, also the q-factor (bandwidth of each frequencie you choose to cut / boost). Thats just the tweeters, then youve got the mids and the sub/s. After this is done you can set the time alignment, which basically means you can set it so all the sounds from each speaker get to you (the driver) at the same time. Mainly good when bass is delayed, as it has to come from the boot to the front seat, whereas the front speakers dont have much distance to cover.

So you can see just by that the amount of tuning options you have with the 9887, theres a few other similar head-units out there, i just suggested it as youve already got an Alpine.

Hmm... I see your point. Reason I was going with the X305 was because it's more expensive lol. Too me more expensive generally means better, when you only have internet information. I don't own a Iphone or Ipod.

The problem is, I have never set my own EQ etc. So I have no experience with it, thats why I get a professional to do it for me.

Ok Im a douche.... didn't realise it was a Ipod bases deck.

[Philthy]

The problem is, I have never set my own EQ etc. So I have no experience with it, thats why I get a professional to do it for me.

Ok Im a douche.... didn't realise it was a Ipod bases deck.

I can only think of 1 way to GET experience with it.
Just have a fiddle with the settings. Change things one way and decide if it's better or worse, then change them the other. If you do it enough times you will be able to listen to it and pick what the little problems are easily

Little problems don't always need money thrown at them. No offence, but tweeters being too bright and harsh is a very basic problem. You don't need to go out buying processors and new headunits to fix it

[Deutscher]

I can only think of 1 way to GET experience with it.
Just have a fiddle with the settings. Change things one way and decide if it's better or worse, then change them the other. If you do it enough times you will be able to listen to it and pick what the little problems are easily

Little problems don't always need money thrown at them. No offence, but tweeters being too bright and harsh is a very basic problem. You don't need to go out buying processors and new headunits to fix it

I know trial and error is the way to learn.. I just don't want to trial and error and make a big error and damage the speakers that cost me an arm.

Also saves me finding the crossover and if it is in the door, would save me taking all that off again.

[holdenboy]

Yep i agree with Philthy, best way to learn is trial and error. Unless you run your splits active then you have very little chance of actually blowing something up.
If you get a pro to do it for you, you'll need to be sitting in the drivers seat for the whole time he's tuning it, giving him feedback on the things he's changing......IMO your much better off to buy the 9887, sit down for a good 1/2 hour and read the manual, after that you'll have more of an understanding as far as tuning goes and what does what etc.
Then its just a matter of getting into the car and playing around with different frequencies, playing with the time alignment etc.
It might take you more than an hour to tune, maybe 2 or 3......but it *should* sound alot better afterwards.

[Luke0011]

ok from reading the post you have the trx2.820 2 channel running a pair of trc.6n soundtream splits with soundtream sst-05 bullet tweeters. Have you added or replaced the tweeters from the trc.6n splits.
Where is the sst-05 mounted. This is an extremely efficient and directional tweeter which explains why it hurts your ears even at low volumes. Why do you have sst-05 installed in your car?

The sst-05 tweeters are really only designed for spl vehicles, to keep up with the massive amounts of bass that distorts most tweeters sound at high volume.

[Deutscher]

ok from reading the post you have the trx2.820 2 channel running a pair of trc.6n soundtream splits with soundtream sst-05 bullet tweeters. Have you added or replaced the tweeters from the trc.6n splits.
Where is the sst-05 mounted. This is an extremely efficient and directional tweeter which explains why it hurts your ears even at low volumes. Why do you have sst-05 installed in your car?

The sst-05 tweeters are really only designed for spl vehicles, to keep up with the massive amounts of bass that distorts most tweeters sound at high volume.

Ye I replaced the trc.6n tweeters with the sst-05's. I was building a semi SPL sound system. It was kind of a daily tho. The Tweeters are mounted in the air vents (top vent (there's 2 vents) on driver & passenger side). I wanted them in near the windscreen but they wouldn't fit cause they too big.

[MR_VX]

my mates got the Rockford 3SIXTY .2 in his xr 6 and he thinks its well worth getting. abit pricely tho!