Need help about 10" sub

[sweefu]

Hey all,
Its my 18th in a couple of weeks and i'm planning on getting a new sub or subs.

Planning on 10", below are the links to a few i'm thinking about. They will be in a sealed box and i have around 3cu.ft of space in my boot for a box for them. I have 800wrms at 2ohm amp for them.
Can anyone recomend any of these subs? Or any decent 10" sub? - Budget for subs alone is ~$300 max.

Ryda Car Audio - Boston G3 10" Car Subwoofer - Dual Voice($298.85) - can afford 1 of these .. will it handle anymore than the rated power?

Ryda Car Audio - Boston G110-4 10" Subwoofer ($158.85) - i can afford 2 of these

Ryda Car Audio - JBL GTO1014 10" Car Subwoofer($150.85) x2

Ryda Car Audio - Soundstream RW-10 Reference - 10" Subwoofer($328.85) x1

OR

At my local wow i can get two polk 10" for $130 each, these are pretty tempting though i'm wondering if the first link the G3 will be best? Could i give it more power?

Thanks.

[HCVP]

Well the G3's are about SQ more so than pure output.

If your after more output from a 10'' maybe have a look towards DD and look into their line up.

Any particular reason for a 10'' vs a 12 if you have 3.cu ft of sealed space to play with?
I can think of a few 12''s of the top of my my head that are well suited to larger sealed enclosures and will without a doubt out perfom any of the above with the 800 rms of power that you have.

[low vs]

Well the G3's are about SQ more so than pure output.

If your after more output from a 10'' maybe have a look towards DD and look into their line up.

Any particular reason for a 10'' vs a 12 if you have 3.cu ft of sealed space to play with?
I can think of a few 12''s of the top of my my head that are well suited to larger sealed enclosures and will without a doubt out perfom any of the above with the 800 rms of power that you have.

i agree...there are alot of 12" subs that come with box for under $300

[HCVP]

I wasn't reffering to sub in box deals, pretty sure OP know's a thing or two about enclsoure design and would be building his own?

[sweefu]

Thanks HCVP for the help, i ran a 10" for ages, at present i have switched to a 12" but i prefer the responsivness of the 10".
I don't have to use the whole 3cu.ft, thats just the space i have available. More keen on SQ though i like it loud.

Low vs, its not the money stopping me from buying a 12" mate, i want a 10". And i'm building a box too.

EDIT: Should say main reason i am after a 10" is because i like the bass to be very punchy and responsive ( i listen to alot of metal etc)
Though i'm still open to 12" if they will do the job.

[holdenboy]

What about these guys.......ive personally heard these in action and love them
Just have to convince him to post them. BTW they are 10" SVC 4 ohm, 180wrms each. More SQ than anything, but you wont find a better "tighter" sounding sub IMO.

[sweefu]

What about these guys.......ive personally heard these in action and love them
Just have to convince him to post them. BTW they are 10" SVC 4 ohm, 180wrms each. More SQ than anything, but you wont find a better "tighter" sounding sub IMO.

Thanks mate they look really good, but a tiny bit out of my budget unfortunately.
Will these subs handle more power than they are rated at?

[holdenboy]

I dont think power handling will be a big issue for you. In a smallish sealed box with the correct LPF and subsonic filter settings most (if not all) subs will take more than theyre rated power. But in saying that you always want headroom, so with ~800wrms to play with i'd be looking at subs with power ratings ranging from a total of 300-600wrms (so 150wrms per sub if using two).

IMO power ratings only really come into play when youre planning on using them in ported applications.

I realised after i posted you only wanted to spend $300, sorry if im tempting you to spend more money than you want / can afford to.

EDIT: If youre after nice tight "punchy" bass but also a decent amount of volume, i'd stick with the 10s but definitely go 2 of them to get that extra volume......youve got the space so why not?

[sweefu]

Haha yes i'm glad you agree that 2 10" are the way to go!

Out of the links i posted, do you think any would be good? Or the Polk audio 10" from wow?

Thanks mate.

[HCVP]

My next suggestion, just buy one sub for now, (G3 IMO) then at a later date, you can look at adding a second one. That was you have nothing but quality gear from the get go !

[sweefu]

Fair enough mate i might go with that, but more than likely i wont be able to add another sub for a fair while.. What are your thoughts on the two Polk 10" i can get from wow?

Polk Audio - db Series - Mobile / Marie Speakers

Fairly sure that is the model there, $129 each maybe i can get it a bit cheaper but that was already on sale.

[HCVP]

If SQ is really your aim then i wouldn't bother with the Polk's to be honest. They "may" as a pair, be louder as aposed to a single G3 for instance, but that's not your aim here.

Quantity does not add up to quality, (you already know this)

The bass response from the polk's will not be anywhere near as tight, or controlled, as what you will get from using a single G3. Boston are renowed for their SQ above anything else, so they speak for themselves when comparing them on paper to other subs. I say on paper because i assume that you are not in a situation to audition either of them, which is most often the case.

As holdenboy mentioned, i wouldn't put too much emphasis on the manafactuer's reccomended, or stated, power handling capabilities.

Myself, i am totally against the idea about using two 10's,( only at this point in time and given your budget), basically because i don't want to see a re-run of this thread in 6 months time because you want to replace your current subs with more quality units because your unhappy with them. I'm assuming this is what this thread is about allready, as you said you've already had a mix of different 10''s, 12''s, ect

I wouldn't stress yourself out too much looking at too many different models.Buying new at your price range, with the info you have given us above, you can't go wrong at all with the G3. It's not the type of sub where your taking a risk buying it without audtion, or comparison. Even if you do decide you want a second one, and it takes you a while until you save up and can afford another one, in the mean time you have a quality product that will still keep you happy as aposed to 2 cheaper units that have to be replaced twice over with something else.

As you've guessed, my vote goes to the Boston G3 without question.
Best of luck, and sorry for the long post!

[sweefu]

Thanks for the help HCVP .. More than happy to read a long post!

WOW has sold out of the Polk subs, but when they come back into stock i am going to go in for a listen. I agree that the G3 would be the better option though i am still considering the Polk because the shop is 15min from my house, and i like knowing i have a shop i can return to for warrenty . I have heard the same polk in a 12" and it wasn't bad. I'll have a decent think now and i'll report back what i get.

Thanks very much for the help with this.

[2LOUD2OLD]

i would recomend a Mach 5 IXL 10 as the best suited for you
Mach 5 Audio IXL 10 subwoofer Subwoofer - Mach 5 Audio IXL-10 [IXL-10.2.2] - $235.00 : Subwoofers Car/Home Theatre, Affordable Drivers Mach 5 Audio

fantastic subs, sound very good and can have a bit of output when required. you will not find a better 10" for the price ($235)

[sweefu]

That sub looks great, however i can't run it because of the 2+2ohm voice coils! very annoying.

[2LOUD2OLD]

you can always run it at 4 ohms giving it around 400WRMS, should be plenty enough to get it moving

[sweefu]

Sorry to drag this out guys. Due to a revised budget, i am looking at the following..

2x Rockford Fosgate P1 10"

2x Pioneer Champion series 10"

2x Polk Audio DB series 10"

Made a mistake too, my amp is just under 700wrms not 800wrms, though this is still fine with those subs.

Cheers.

[HCVP]

I still think your going down the wrong path here.

Hear me out-
Your looking at two sub's as aposed to a single sub, because you want it louder, and you know that the combined cone surface area of 2 subs, will in most cases be louder than a single unit.

But, your choosing a 10'', over a 12'' because your aim is slightly more towards SQ, than pure output. You prefer the quicker response of the smaller sub, but are willing to spend less on each unit, in a bid to gain extra output.

How about looking at a quality 12'', with higher power handling, in a decent sized , and well planned out, sealed enclosure. Have a look at these, http://www.audiomarketplace.com.au/c...art/Itemid,49/ in a well designed enclosure, i'm willing to bet this would beat any of the above mentioned subs.

Ofcourse, you would have to run it in a 4ohm setup, but i'm sure an amp upgrade in on the cards at some point, but in the meantime 400rms, will do the job.

Have a talk to 2LOUD, he has a sealed setup using this sub.

[sweefu]

I'm sorry to drag this out for so long, feel free to not reply!

I'm coming around to your idea of thinking hcvp, i would be better to get 1 good sub now and try to add another later.

I want to get the sub from a shop rather than over the internet, so i'll be getting a boston G2 or a rockford p2 10" .. for around $280 then add another later.

Thanks for all the opinions, info and help. I greatly appreciate it.

[HCVP]

I'm glad i'm influencing your thoughts.

One major dilema you face here, is your amp. I assume you've had it for a while, and have paired it up with a number of different sub's throughout it's time. Now the time has come, where you want to upgrade to a more serious sub, but are finding that with most of the better quality subs, that the voice coil arrangements are not suitable, or ideal for your amp.

So what do you do? It always pays to think ahead to what your next upgrade may be. I know it's not always that easy, your already thinking about the money your spending now, amongst other things.

Whilst most of the better subs on the market, amongst the reccomendations, may not perform to their full potential with your current amp, you will at one point, just like everything else, upgrade it.

Even if you keep your eye out for a suitable used amp. The thing with quality audio gear, compared to cheaper stuff, is that the better stuff is usually harder to sell. In other words, there are more P plate Civic drivers after a pair of Fusion subs, than there are mature age Audi owners looking for a peice of DLS gear.

So you might be suprised as to how cheap you could actually pick up a decent used amp for. I know i've had a much harder time selling my AD sutff ( infact i still have some left over) than i did offloading my old Sony and Pioneer gear, which practically flew out the door as soon as i advertised it!

Oh, and don't be a tight arse, the G3 is on special, and is only $18 beyond your budget. If you wind up with the G2 were going to have to ban you from the forum, and consfiscate your car.

[sweefu]

I get what you mean 100% about people wanting 'brand' names mate, when i talk to people about their stereo's they snuff at my UK front splits that don't sell here.. and they think they're Kingwood 1000watt 6x9 are better..

I have found another website that says my amp is only 660wrms @2ohm .. so this seems to be the case. Either way it will still do for now, until i upgrade. Next upgrade will be new Polk MM front splits i think, with a new 2 channel .. then new mono.

Feel free to take my car off me - i sold it last week haha! Kept the stereo though.

Also, my budget is bit smaller now, which is why i'm looking at a g2 or p2, though i still think they'll be good!

Cheers mate.

[Ryan.mate]

get a spl dynamics sub love mine, its a 10" and sealed

[sweefu]

Thanks for the reply mate, but ordered a pair of Polk MM 10" today

[holdenboy]

get a spl dynamics sub love mine, its a 10" and sealed

Great to hear your liking that sub.......take care of her