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    Hi guys.

    Firstly sorry if this has been covered, but i couldn't find a thread with the relevant information using the search bar.

    I have just got a VY Berlina (see my ride for pics).. And i want to run a sub using stock head unit. I know i need to get a line level converter, yet how do i install this? Worth doing my self? Or pay the $50 for a pro to do it at a audio shop ie. Strathfield Car Radio...

    Now the main issue i have it location of mounting my amp. Its a Powervox 2900watt amp (ebay special, but has served me and mates well in the past), its 45cm x 25cm approx. so it is hard to find a suitable mounting spot, as i would like to mount on the back of rear seats, yet i need to be able to fold the middle seat down and be able to put my skis threw it, so cant obstruct that area much

    I was thinking of putting/mounting the amp upside down on the under side of the parcel shelf, YES i do know this is supposedly bad, yet i haven't heard/read any reports of it being a issue. The amp has 2 heat dispersers on each sides, running the full length, about 1-2cm deep. It also has heat dispersers on the top, 6 long parallel lines, about 5mm wide and deep.
    (Will upload pic later)

    So in the end, can i bolt my amp upside down on the parcel shelf? Would it be that pic of a issue, since its main heat dispersers are located on the side?

    And if that isnt suitable, where can i mount it with out it being in the way? (PS cant mount on sub box as its larger in dimensions then the box..)

    Cheers

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    i put mine upside down, mums vy had it upside down, hasnt broken, do it its fine, had them in since 2009
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    I will be posting a 'HOW-TO' on installing a amp on a VY/VZ with stock head unit. stay tuned for some updates...

    For the mean time..
    Some new goodies


    2900 Watt Amp
    1000 Watt Xplod Sub
    Line Level Converter
    Power Distribution Block
    Amp Wiring Kit
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke641 View Post
    I will be posting a 'HOW-TO' on installing a amp on a VY/VZ with stock head unit. stay tuned for some updates...

    For the mean time..
    Some new goodies

    2900 Watt Amp
    1000 Watt Xplod Sub
    Line Level Converter
    Power Distribution Block
    Amp Wiring Kit
    Seeing as you're quoting the power figures of your gear in watts max I'd suggest doing some research into basic electronic theory and in general car audio before writing a misleading how-to guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bezz View Post
    Seeing as you're quoting the power figures of your gear in watts max I'd suggest doing some research into basic electronic theory and in general car audio before writing a misleading how-to guide.
    I know what, and the RMS of the amp and speakers. But I couldnt find the manual with the specs for the amp and sub. But off memory the sub is about 350wrms. And the Amp is.. who knows. its a cheap ebay amp. anything from 150 to 300. But the amp was very cheap from a mate, so im not worried.

    And i have done a tafe course for an electrical trade. So yer...
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    Not having a go at you, but if you have done a tafe course in electronics why did you quote 2900watts for the amp when it would lucky to hit 10% of that power?
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    Honestly, its because i dont have a manufactures figure on that, as even if i did, it would not make anything near it.

    I have a new amp on the way. But this will do for time being.
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    Yeah i wouldnt recommend you doing a "how to" guide if you dont know how to install a LOC.

    Not having a go like sweefu said, but to write up a guide like that you'd wanna have done 10+ of these installs.
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    Yer. I do know how to install a LOC. Its 4 wires. Not hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke641 View Post
    I know i need to get a line level converter, yet how do i install this?
    If you know how to install it, why ask?

    Anyway..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by holdenboy View Post
    If you know how to install it, why ask?

    Anyway..........
    There is 2 type i found, First was a really complicated one, requiring taking head unit appart etc. Phreddy does this mod..

    2nd is the one im using.. Simply attaches to the rear 6x9's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke641 View Post
    Hi guys.

    Firstly sorry if this has been covered, but i couldn't find a thread with the relevant information using the search bar.

    I have just got a VY Berlina (see my ride for pics).. And i want to run a sub using stock head unit. I know i need to get a line level converter, yet how do i install this? Worth doing my self? Or pay the $50 for a pro to do it at a audio shop ie. Strathfield Car Radio...

    Now the main issue i have it location of mounting my amp. Its a Powervox 2900watt amp (ebay special, but has served me and mates well in the past), its 45cm x 25cm approx. so it is hard to find a suitable mounting spot, as i would like to mount on the back of rear seats, yet i need to be able to fold the middle seat down and be able to put my skis threw it, so cant obstruct that area much

    I was thinking of putting/mounting the amp upside down on the under side of the parcel shelf, YES i do know this is supposedly bad, yet i haven't heard/read any reports of it being a issue. The amp has 2 heat dispersers on each sides, running the full length, about 1-2cm deep. It also has heat dispersers on the top, 6 long parallel lines, about 5mm wide and deep.
    (Will upload pic later)

    So in the end, can i bolt my amp upside down on the parcel shelf? Would it be that pic of a issue, since its main heat dispersers are located on the side?

    And if that isnt suitable, where can i mount it with out it being in the way? (PS cant mount on sub box as its larger in dimensions then the box..)

    Cheers

    Luke
    Hey dude, why don't you speak to Phreddy on this forum. He made this thing which sits under the rear parcel shelf. It would mean that your amp still sits upright and also he made it so you could unlock it to flip down if you need to maintain anything. Pretty awesome design. Pics can be found here
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    Quote Originally Posted by H0LD3N View Post
    Hey dude, why don't you speak to Phreddy on this forum. He made this thing which sits under the rear parcel shelf. It would mean that your amp still sits upright and also he made it so you could unlock it to flip down if you need to maintain anything. Pretty awesome design. Pics can be found here
    Yer I was considering doing that. Still might. Thanks for the link
    but
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    i glued a piece of MDF under the carpet onto the metal and screwed it into that.

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    Well the sub is in. No real issues. Other then a install delay due to a faulty battery on sunday morning.. $180 later and its all fixed.

    Here are some pics of the install...

    If you look on the RHS pannel, you can see the power distribution block. This allowed me to tap into the power for a sunroof (orange/white striped wire). From the block i connect the other end of sunroof power wire in one of the 4 outlets, and the remote into the other. Remote wire runs to the switch under the dash then back again.



    The switch in the trigger/remote wire. This allows me to turn the amp on and off when i choose. So if i want to still listen to music with out loud, drowning bass, i can.



    Pic of the sub, amp, Line Level Convert in the boot... Need to be cleaned up, and need to mount the amp onto the parcel shelf, for the mean time its velco'd into place...



    Some new pics i took of the car when i was bored...




    Ill post the write up when i get a chance in the next week.
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    I like what you've done mate, since I'll be doing this very soon in my VZ it'll be interesting to see!
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    If you have any questions mate, feel free to ask. It cost me, inc parts 100$ for the install. (minus amp/sub). Strathfield wanted $180 to do it. So i think im ahead, and its done how i wanted it, and i know whats the issue if something was to go wrong.

    Only thing is you need to remember to turn amp off at switch when car off. But that is going to change soon anyway. (wire to either HU or acc)
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    I used to run my amp straight to the battery? When my car turned off, the amp would turn off. I'm just curious that sunroof cable you've tapped into, does that power the amp, or have you run the power to your battery? Or is it just a simple switch. I'll be using alot smaller amp as I only want it to run my back to speakers in the parcel shelf and my sub, I'll run the 4 speakers inside from my HU.
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    Not sure what you've done here mate, did you wire the remote wire to the ignition accesories wire? If you forget to turn the switch off you have the risk of running the battery flat. Trigger wire is best connected to the accesories..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryley View Post
    I used to run my amp straight to the battery? When my car turned off, the amp would turn off. I'm just curious that sunroof cable you've tapped into, does that power the amp, or have you run the power to your battery? Or is it just a simple switch. I'll be using alot smaller amp as I only want it to run my back to speakers in the parcel shelf and my sub, I'll run the 4 speakers inside from my HU.
    I only run the sub with my amp. And i still wired the power cable to the amp, the rem, thats tapped into sun roof, is just a simpler way of running the Rem wire. But i have now connected to ACC..


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    Not sure what you've done here mate, did you wire the remote wire to the ignition accesories wire? If you forget to turn the switch off you have the risk of running the battery flat. Trigger wire is best connected to the accesories..
    Its connected to the accessories now. Was just temp other way.

    It now turns the amp off when you turn car off. The swtich allows the on/off of the amp, in the event you dont want to use the sub.
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    Its pretty much finished now. just need to mount the amp under the parcel shelf. Phreddy Style
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    Oh yeah, so you're going to mount it under your boot lid?
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    I have mine on the parcel shelf

    no problems with heat, although i'm not running a sub from it yet, and i only listen at reasonable volumes.

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    Put your center seat down at the back to get some airflow and sound from the sub in ? :P
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