vx ii front splits

[subwars]

hi all, i'm wanting to replace the speakers in my vx, the h/u was replaced about 12months ago with a pioneer deh-7050bt, it's 50wx4 anyway, the stock speakers are only 15w (just pulled the front and back on the left hand side out)

now the car has tweaters up on the dash just under the front screen. can't see how to get to them either.. and googling isn't helping me much, but i did read they are connected being spliced off the cable in the door with a resistor or capasitor,(can't remember now, was on these forums i read it, plus alot of other helpful posts) behind the speaker to do the job of a x-over.

i put my head upto the one on the left, and it's still going even though the speaker in the door is taken out.

what should i do?, should i just leave them and install some 2way's into the door. get some new splits and put the tweater in the door trim somewhere. find out how to access the tweaters, as long as it doesn't envolve removing the entire front dash. and place new tweaters up there..(something else i read, having the tweaters as close to the main speaker is the best, so i guess in the door trim is better?)

just after some advice on how i should tackle this, and any recomendations on speakers.. some of the threads i saw on whirlpool said the jaycar splits, were good, but i can't find them anywhere on the jaycar website.. so i'm guessing there no longer available.. said posts were a couple years old though...

Thanks to any who can give tips

[VNCommyBeast]

usually there's a crossover thing in the door, treble goes up to the tweeters and bass goes down to the door speaker, you could either disconnect the crossover and just hard wire in to the speaker you put in or wire your new speaker in to the cross over (personally i like having tweeters up around the face level)

[Joe Bellissimo]

subwars, harvey bay in qld?

[2LOUD2OLD]

there is a plastic trim that runs along the windscreen, at the side of the dash where the air vent for the door joins there are a few screws that you need to remove and then you can remove the air vent panel. Behind that is 1 screw holding the plastic trim undo that and then unclip the rest of the way off, and voila you can get to the tweeter

[subwars]

subwars, harvey bay in qld?

correct....?

[subwars]

there is a plastic trim that runs along the windscreen, at the side of the dash where the air vent for the door joins there are a few screws that you need to remove and then you can remove the air vent panel. Behind that is 1 screw holding the plastic trim undo that and then unclip the rest of the way off, and voila you can get to the tweeter

thanks for that, i'll give it a try tomorrow to get to them. would definatly be better to get splits for the front i'd imagine, and just some normal ones for the back. had a quick 10min listen at supercheap this arvo before they closed. but just coulnd't decide on anything, ps, what seriously is the difference between 2/3/4ways...

my plan is to upgrade the door speakers for now with some something decent, then later on probably next year, get some 6x9's for the parcel shelf and an amp which i would power them with and the front splits, just leaving the back doors on the headunit.. thats what i'm thinking anyway

[Joe Bellissimo]

2/3/4 way speakers would be coaxial. I would never use them in the front doors as splits generally sound MUCH better. So focus on a set of "2 way splits" specifically.

Wow you are ages from Brisbane.. I was trying to figure out if I knew anyone up your way to give you a demo of a well built car but your a fair bit off..

[subwars]

Wow you are ages from Brisbane.. I was trying to figure out if I knew anyone up your way to give you a demo of a well built car but your a fair bit off..

ahh ok, i was thinking you knew me somehow.. i was scratching my head trying to think of who the hell you could be. lol.

[2LOUD2OLD]

thanks for that, i'll give it a try tomorrow to get to them. would definatly be better to get splits for the front i'd imagine, and just some normal ones for the back. had a quick 10min listen at supercheap this arvo before they closed. but just coulnd't decide on anything, ps, what seriously is the difference between 2/3/4ways...

my plan is to upgrade the door speakers for now with some something decent, then later on probably next year, get some 6x9's for the parcel shelf and an amp which i would power them with and the front splits, just leaving the back doors on the headunit.. thats what i'm thinking anyway

2/3/4ways are coaxials and are purely a marketing gimmik, more "ways" doesnt mean better speaker. instead get yourself a good set of splits, but please go to a specialist car audio retailer instead of supercheap auto, so you actually get a decent set of speakers

[Philthy]

thanks for that, i'll give it a try tomorrow to get to them. would definatly be better to get splits for the front i'd imagine, and just some normal ones for the back. had a quick 10min listen at supercheap this arvo before they closed. but just coulnd't decide on anything, ps, what seriously is the difference between 2/3/4ways...

my plan is to upgrade the door speakers for now with some something decent, then later on probably next year, get some 6x9's for the parcel shelf and an amp which i would power them with and the front splits, just leaving the back doors on the headunit.. thats what i'm thinking anyway

Good plan. Buy the best splits you can for now, and run them off the headunit. Later on down the track you can buy a 4ch amp and some 6x9's, and run the fronts and 6x9's off the amp. If you get good 6x9's you should be able to get away without needing a sub (depending on music taste of course). That means you save money on a sub, amp, box, wiring, and get to keep your boot for the shopping

How much were you wanting to spend? I can give you a few example setups as a guide

[subwars]

Good plan. Buy the best splits you can for now, and run them off the headunit. Later on down the track you can buy a 4ch amp and some 6x9's, and run the fronts and 6x9's off the amp. If you get good 6x9's you should be able to get away without needing a sub (depending on music taste of course). That means you save money on a sub, amp, box, wiring, and get to keep your boot for the shopping

How much were you wanting to spend? I can give you a few example setups as a guide

well, probably around 150-200 each on the speakers. and the amp, well i'm not sure, probably need to spend at least 200 on that as well?

i mean i dont want to spend a massive amount, but it seems dumb to have a 500$ head unit and 15$ yumcha speakers

something else i was thinking about, after tinkering on the weekend, the normal place for mounting 6x9's on the parcell shell, leaves the back of the speakers opened up into the entire boot... which im guessing would just kill any bass?

would buying some of them speaker box's made for 6x9's. then probably cut the parcel shelf to fit them, have the box's sitting on the steel part so there recessed a bit, if you know what i mean.. would that be better for sound? would also direct it towards the front as well instead of just up

[Philthy]

Almost every setup I've listened to with 6x9's have just had them in the standard spot. The one with them in a box on the parcel shelf has them pointed at the back of the passengers heads. Anything over about 4 or 5 volume gives them a headache, while the driver can hardly hear a thing. It also drags the whole sound stage towards the rear of the car. That said, he does have one of the worst setup stereo I've ever seen
Bass is not very directional, so it doesn't really matter where you have them pointed, you should still hear the extra bass from them.

$200 isn't much for a good set of splits. With a budget like that I'd look at upgrading one thing at a time, so you have a while to save up for each component.
If you can stretch for it, these Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Audio Development AD6 AD6's are some of the best value for money splits I've seen. The coaxial version Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Audio Development AD6CX should be pretty decent as well though.

SPL dynamics gear Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - SPL Dynamics TD-6903 is good for bass output, and should go plenty loud enough for you.

Then to drive it all Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Ground Zero Iridium GZIA 4110HPX would do the job, but you wouldn't be getting the full potential out of the speakers. Shopping Secure - Car Audio Specialists - Option Audio OAC160 would be better, but might be a little over budget for you.

As I said though, think about getting one thing at a time. Start with front speakers, then rears, then if you still aren't happy with it, you can always throw in a 4ch amp and give it that extra boost

[subwars]

thanks for the recomendations.. but i can't afford to spend that much on them. what about the alpine s series?

[Philthy]

thanks for the recomendations.. but i can't afford to spend that much on them. what about the alpine s series?

I have the coaxial ones in the parcel shelf of my car. Lasted about a month in the front before I needed something better

[Joe Bellissimo]

I greatly dislike the Type S. Each to their own but I find the clarity to be very underwhelming.

What shops do you have up there?

[subwars]

I greatly dislike the Type S. Each to their own but I find the clarity to be very underwhelming.

What shops do you have up there?

supercheap, autobarn, pmr, and one other place thats an installer, called bayside auto fx, went in there once, but thought they were too over priced... but i should call in there again one more time to have a look what they actually have

[subwars]

Got out and had a look around town today.

Auto FX place had alpines, full rrp, and wouldn't move on the prices..

Autobarn, only had a couple kenwood splits on the board, and a clarion srp1620M on the shelf for special $249

PMR, which seem to be the only decent place in town, sugested rockford fosgate p1652-s, which were $379, but said would do them for $320... they were build in cross overs as well, which i don't know if thats actually a bad thing or not...

I should be going down to brissie this weekend.. really need to call into somewhere down there... maybe a strathfield or something.. i donno.. any sugestions?

[50LTRv8]

You could use ryda online

[sweefu]

For a decent set of splits for $200 perhaps look at:
-Crescendo Opus 1 ~$250 online but a good speaker
-Boston S60 $198 on Ryda
-Morel Tempo? I think these are around $200 or the Morel Maximo's??

These are decent speakers for the money and should provide plenty of midbass with good sq thought you'll often find with speakers from the lower price ranges tweeter's will be a little bit bright and the treble not as refined, also you'd have to get a decent amp at some stage to run them off otherwise they won't be running near their full potential.

[Joe Bellissimo]

Yeah thats what I hate about cheaper splits, most have that hiss in the lyrics when the vocalist pronounces an "s" >.<

[benno1234]

so im in a simular situation here. i have a a set of splits that i want to install, so do i leave the origional tweeters in the dash and place the others somewhere else or disconnect the origional ones and remove then replace them with the new ones ? any help or advice would be appreciated cheers

[sweefu]

Remove the stock tweeters and replace them with your aftermarket ones mate.

[benno1234]

thanks, those were the lines i was thinkin of taking just double checking.