loudest commo SEDAN in aus

**vt josh** · 13-09-2010, 12:55 PM

hi all i just would like to know whats the loudest commodore SEDAN in australia that still has its subs in the boot ?

what type of commodore?
how much db?
and are they on this forum?
what sub?
what amp?
what type of box?

and the db number has to be from a well known comp

**Hotblack** · 13-09-2010, 05:34 PM

dont know what it is but there is probably someone at this adress that could tell you they hold a audio drag race all over the country..Competition Series
good luck hope u have plenty of dollars to spend..

**vt josh** · 13-09-2010, 05:51 PM

ohhh yeah im allready on mea and they all know the numbers my car dose (145.5db) they told me that the loudest commo dose 147.2 just seeing if there is some one they might no no about

**acarmody** · 13-09-2010, 06:08 PM

Holdenboy got 150dB in a wagon, and they have more air so it would be harder.

**vt josh** · 13-09-2010, 06:25 PM

mate if you read the post it says sedan and i would have to say it is harder to make a commo sedan louder then a commo wagon due to the bass having to pass through the back seat and a wagon would not have this problem and also the boot space being smaller then the wagon leaving you less room for subs , amps and box sizes

**Philthy** · 13-09-2010, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by vt josh

mate if you read the post it says sedan and i would have to say it is harder to make a commo sedan louder then a commo wagon due to the bass having to pass through the back seat and a wagon would not have this problem and also the boot space being smaller then the wagon leaving you less room for subs , amps and box sizes

No, a wagon is harder. I suggest reading up a bit more before going and blowing too much money.

From memory the loudest was 147.something

**sweefu** · 13-09-2010, 06:48 PM

Didn't you already start a thread over on MEA?

**vt josh** · 13-09-2010, 07:04 PM

give me some reasons why its harder

dont worry about my money mate i like putting it into car audio

yes i did i just thought i would put it up on here to see what people have to say

**vr1uz-fe** · 13-09-2010, 07:10 PM

it is harder as there is more air to move

what have you got mate

i have half my system i bought it two years ago and have moved off a bit but have still been keeping keen

my amp will be spl dynamics 0.25 ohm setup

**vt josh** · 13-09-2010, 08:04 PM

i use 2 soundstream t-512 subs and 2 soundstream 2600d on a Odyssey 2150

and i am waiting to get new subs as these ones dont like 2600wrms very much

**vr1uz-fe** · 13-09-2010, 08:08 PM

and you got that figure gee i have a 5000w 15 i know the two 12's have more cone area but #### i would have to come close to that figure

**vt josh** · 13-09-2010, 08:38 PM

get some time on a term lab have a go and make a vid

**HCVP** · 14-09-2010, 11:52 PM

Yes much harder in a wagon.

Why does it have to be the loudest Commodore sedan?

Smaller car, less money, more gains.......

If your interested ingetting into SPL, i wouldn't reccomend using a Commodore. Not saying it can't be done, obviously it can, and has been, but there are much easy way's of getting big numbers.......

**AmmoJammo** · 15-09-2010, 07:34 AM

lol, you people are funny.

a wagon isn't harder, a sedan is.

if we're talking about same model car, wagon VS sedan, the sedan will nearly always be quieter.

**vt josh** · 15-09-2010, 09:06 AM

because thats what the question asked because that what i would like to know

but why should i follow the trend and get a small car its just like saying get a v8 because it is easyer to make power out of them id rather be the guy that smashed the v8 with my v6 im just not they type of guy that likes to follow trends in the car scene

thankyou ammojammo sure the wagon has more a more air to push but the sedan has a back seat it has to push sound and air through it just aint gunna happen as easy and being the car i have a vt the back seats are also thicker and the ski hole is smaller then the vs

dont mean to be rude about this but it just shits me how the topic of talk has now changed i didnt put this up to start shit with people i put it up because i had a question i wanted the answer to so if you could please help me with the answer reply

**HCVP** · 15-09-2010, 10:53 AM

Pretty sure a car as common and as mass produced as a Commodore, could be seen as following a trend by now.

We don't know that the loudest Commodore in Austrlaia is.

I was only advising that if your considering buying some gear and entering some competeitions, then that it pays to have a car that works in your favour, rather than against it.

**vt josh** · 15-09-2010, 11:54 AM

im talking in spl mate out of all the comps i have been to i have only seen one other commodore make over 140db so i think using a commodore in spl is not a trend at all

you might not know but im sure there is some body else on here that might know

mate dont mean to be rude but if you read up i have all ready got all my gear and the car is making numbers the keep up with the smaller cars at comps

i would rather do it my way as your saying that hard way

**aazn** · 16-09-2010, 07:01 PM

i personally think its harder to make DB's in a wagon.

but i think what the OP is trying to say with the louder the DB is he is refering to getting volume into the cabin and not chasing number

i think he is confused.

i have a 2000w alpine amp and 4 soundstream subs that might be going into my boot soon.. would be fun to see the number i will hit.

**AmmoJammo** · 16-09-2010, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by aazn

i have a 2000w alpine amp and 4 soundstream subs that might be going into my boot soon.. would be fun to see the number i will hit.

less than if it was in a wagon.

**HCVP** · 17-09-2010, 01:41 PM

Seeing as no one had an answer to the OP's original question, i don't see any harm in going a bit off topic and starting a convo regarding sedan vs wagon. At the very least it will add some useful info to the thread.

I have never competed in SPL events, so i do not have any first hand experience. I was (still am) under the impression that a sedan will be louder than a wagon using the same components. This is based on my knowledge that a sub's main purpose is to move air. The less air it has to move, the more sound pressue it can create. I also think this is why you see a lot of people entering competitions in smaller vehicles, like 3dr hatchbacks.

Ofcourse i could be very wrong. I would like to hear people's thoughts on this, particulary those who have competed in events. I'm always up for learning , and this could be helpful to anyone interested in getting involved in events in the future.

**Philthy** · 17-09-2010, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by HCVP

Seeing as no one had an answer to the OP's original question, i don't see any harm in going a bit off topic and starting a convo regarding sedan vs wagon. At the very least it will add some useful info to the thread.

I have never competed in SPL events, so i do not have any first hand experience. I was (still am) under the impression that a sedan will be louder than a wagon using the same components. This is based on my knowledge that a sub's main purpose is to move air. The less air it has to move, the more sound pressue it can create. I also think this is why you see a lot of people entering competitions in smaller vehicles, like 3dr hatchbacks.

Ofcourse i could be very wrong. I would like to hear people's thoughts on this, particulary those who have competed in events. I'm always up for learning , and this could be helpful to anyone interested in getting involved in events in the future.

I don't really have anything to add except to say thats the way I understood it as well. I've never been interested enough in SPL to do any proper research though

**vr1uz-fe** · 17-09-2010, 07:55 PM

where's shopping sucure or spl dynamics

they can sort this out

it is fact if there is less air to move out of a car the better the sound consentration

i think some ppl are getting mixed up here if it were a seadan in a comp you would want all your amps in the cabin and all the speakers in the boot as there would be less air to move in the boot thus making a very good number in spl

in fact im certain on this as i spoke to shopping secure over the phone when i had a wagon and he said get rid of it and buy a small car but i know a bloke that knows one of the spl dynamics guys now so i dont deal with shopping sucure any more

**Red Ranger** · 17-09-2010, 07:59 PM

You are correct in say there is more air to move in a wagon.. But more air means more space to put more subs, a wagon only has twice as much air to move (rough guess) while have five times (also a rough guess) as much space to fit out with everything, therefor a sedan to manage the sam db need much much more power and planning, also having to work well with the back seat in the road...
In the end tho i would put them on about par with eachother

**vr1uz-fe** · 17-09-2010, 08:02 PM

yea that might be a sensible statement they are equal im happy with that

**marcusleo** · 17-09-2010, 08:09 PM

the difference would be negligible (then again if people are getting a little testy about a poofteenth of a dB then it will surely upset you). fair bit more to acoustic dynamics than the extra few cubes of air you want the sub to send her sexy little vibration through. doof.

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