Anyone used Alpine type r swr-1222D sub with alpine mrp-m500 amp?!?

[JAKE-26]

Hey all.
I've just bought an Alpine MRP-M500 monoblock amp to run a subwoofer off.
I saw an alpine type r 12" SWR-1222D Sub for sale for a decent price and i've heard these are good subs. The only problem is its a dvc 2omh sub, so can only run at 1 or 4 ohms, which means it would only run at 300wrms off my amp.

My question is if anyone knows if it would still hammer only running at 300wrms @ 4ohms instead of the sub and amps max of 500wrms.

Cheers for any info!!

[acarmody]

Mate my first sub had 160wrms and I thought that pumped. But that would have been a fairly pricey amp so why not take full advantage of it and get a sub to suit. You don't have to go all one brand so look around.

Out of curiosity how much is the sub?

[HCVP]

I used to own one of these subs. They are not a bad sub by any means, but in my opinion, they are a little over rated, and a little over priced.

Being rated at 500 rms, i would suggest that as i mimimuim, you match the rated input power. Any less power and you are only limiting the subs performance. It's probably worth mentioning also that under powering a speaker if not careful can cause damage to both the speaker / sub, and also the amplifier.

If it was me i would be looking around for a more suitable sub. (as mentioned above)

[JAKE-26]

Ohk fair enough guys. I don't wanna spend too much as its just my first car with a basic system. i only really want to spend another 2-300 max on a sub coz i still have to get everything installed.

And acarmody the amp is the only alpine thing i have! haha. I've just heard they make quality gear.

The blokes asking 230 for it.

[acarmody]

Option? Ryda Car Audio -Soundstream XPRO-12 Picasso - 12" Subwoofer($286.00)

[HCVP]

$230, is that used, with/ without enclosure? Don't forget to add wiring kit and enclosure on top off your bill if need be.

[JAKE-26]

I think its without a box, which is more money i guess.
and yeah used.

He told me it wouldn't be full potential which i knew so good on him, then he offered me this, chasing around 300 almost new. no enclosure.

Ryda Car Audio - JL Audio 12W3V32 12" Subwoofer ($413.55)

The soundstream sub is 600w and my amps only 500, or is that alright? sorry still learning a few things.

[acarmody]

As with all amps/subs, as long as the amp is tuned properly it can run basically any sub within the amps impedance range. Running any amp untuned and you run the risk of killing either the the speaker/sub or the amp or both.

[JAKE-26]

Ok thanks thats good to know.

For arguments sake, say i did end up going for the cheaper option of the 1222D type R, running it at 4omh, which the amp rates 4ohm @ 300w, can anyone say whether it would still be moderately bassy. I've google searched both items and ive seen a few reviews of the sub saying they have run it with my amp and its been really good.

cheers

[HCVP]

I fed 420rms into a 12 '' type R in a VP sedan, using a 1.75 cu ft sealed, and it was "ok" But at the time i had been involved with audio for a while, and my expectations , or needs / wants were constantly growing....If you've never had a sub before, then like acarmody said , you'll probably be pretty happy with it initially, but again it will just depend on your needs, or expectations.

At the time i was upgrading my front stage, i spent as much as i could on a set of fronts, and i decided to focus more on SQ, and in the end i wound up with a system that kept me pretty entertained until i felt the need to upgrade again.

If your a real bass head you will probably come away pretty dissapointed, if your expecting ground shaking bass then it's not going to happen.

If your more into sound quality rather than output and bass quantities, then with some fine tuning it could round off a system quite nicely depending on the rest of the components.

[JAKE-26]

Yeah well i've only heard my mates average subs fairly loud in his car once. As long as you can feel those lows though i'm sure i'l be happy.
I've got some pioneer splits for the front and some average 3 ways for the back. I'm hoping it sounds good.

[acarmody]

If your expecting to feel your seat to vibrate and your clothing to ripple then you will be disappointed, it you want the music to sound more 'complete' (best word I can think of right now) then 300wrms will be fine.

[HCVP]

You could wire a couple of entry level SVC 4 ohm subs together for around the same price as what your looking at paying for the other sub. It would give 250 to each sub as aposed to 300 to just one sub......

- http://www.ryda.com.au/Pioneer-TS-W3...-p/tsw303r.htm

[acarmody]

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[aazn]

troll ebay...

i saw a dd2515 sub on ebay for 300, no buyers..

do some research on DD.. crazy stuff..

[JAKE-26]

Yeah i wouldn't mind my car vibrating at high volumes. From what i gather its not going to happen with the type R, so thanks for clearing that up everyone.

Also i only really want to run one sub to (hopefully) save on cost and since i have lpg there wont be much room to begin with.

Depending on what else i find i might make an offer on the Ryda Car Audio - JL Audio 12W3V32 12" Subwoofer ($413.55) sub a member here offered me. It was a bit more than i wanted to spend but i might be getting my uncle to help install most of the stuff so i'l save a few hundred there :P

[acarmody]

Installing a sub isn't very hard thankfully, especially if you already have the RCAs in the boot.

And if you need a hand designing the sub enclosure then just ask here.

[JAKE-26]

Yeah sub install will be fine, but i need to get everything installed (H/U, splits, 3ways, mono and 4ch and sub) so could be a bit difficult.

And cheers for the offer but i think i'l probably just buy a pre-made box, unless they're really easy and alot cheaper. whats a box cost like 50 bucks?

[HCVP]

I still think 2 entry level SVC 4 ohm subs such as the ones listed above would give you best bang for your buck. ( without sounding rude, it would be in your best interest to take the advice of those who have been there and done it before.) We're just trying to help...

Sub box depends. If your after a sealed enclosure, then you can pick up a cheap pre-fab and if you wanted you could make some cheap improvements.

If your after ported, then you will need to build it yourself. There's no point in buying a pre-fabricated ported enclosure IMO unless you can calculate the tuning fq using the internal volume and port length and width, and determining whether it is suitable for the sub you have. But most are crap anyway..

Installing is quite easy depending on the vehicle, but it's also time consuming... Unless you have some basic knowledge to begin with then i wouldn't reccomend doing it yourself. (I'm not against DIY and first time installs, but there's just certain things you need to know to be able to complete the job. The last thing you want to end up with is butchered interior plastics / panels, and a dodgy installation, at worse damaged electrics or components)

Problem is places charge a fair bit of money for instalation, maybe try and find a forum member in your area who might like to help you out for a few quid...Where abouts are you located?

[JAKE-26]

I still think 2 entry level SVC 4 ohm subs such as the ones listed above would give you best bang for your buck

Yeah probably but thing is i only really want one sub, as i have limited boot space (LPG) and still might want to use it every now and then, so cant fill it up.
Well the main reason of this thread was to find out whether to buy the type r but thanks to some advice i dont think i'l bother anymore so cheers fellas.

Also is it ported or sealed that gives the most thump/bass, i always forget?
Cheers

[acarmody]

Sealed is 'tighter' bass, ported is 'lower/deeper' bass, and ported is generally louder due to the increased efficiency design of the enclosure.

[JAKE-26]

Ok, damn. I was hoping sealed would be louder as its the easier option.
I'l probably end up with a sealed box as ported will be too much work for me to figure out and build. I'd rather just know it should sound good, rather than wasting time and money with a shitty build.

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