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    Hey guys im looking at installing a 1000w slim 12 inch sub into my ute and am wondering what sort of amp i will need to power it to a reasonable standard. cheers

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    Can you give us a RMS power rating or at least the model number of the sub?
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    PIONEER TS-W308F 12" SLIM SUBWOOFER CAR AUDIO SUB 1000W (eBay item 170567443997 end time 20-Nov-10 15:23:09 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

    Specification:
    - Maximum output power 1000W
    - Nominal output power 300W
    - Impedance 4Ω
    - Frequency response 20 - 2,100 Hz
    - Sensitivity (1W/1m) 84,6 dB
    - Woofer size (cm) 30 cm
    - Woofer material Interlaced Basalt / Aramid Fibre Reinforced IMPP Composite Cone
    - Voice Coil type Single (4Ω)
    - Voice Coil bobbin type Aluminium
    - Terminals DIN-shaped
    - Surround Dual Layer Urethane Surround

    i dont know what the RMS of the sub is.

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    The RMS here is called the Nominal Output Power, so 300wrms, also called, continuous power, as well as a few other names I can't remember right now.
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    -Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
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    thanks 4 the help mate, i actually had the kenwood amp about a yr ago but sold it to fund other things lol, might get another one of them

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    No probs mate, just remember if you ever get another one of those subs down the track and wire to 2-ohms, its free power from the amp.
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    308F ? the F usually denotes free air , does it say free air on the box ?
    If so then putting it in a small box in a ute is going to end in tears or sound crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAL SPL View Post
    308F ? the F usually denotes free air , does it say free air on the box ?
    If so then putting it in a small box in a ute is going to end in tears or sound crap.
    Good pick-up mate, I didn't even see that.

    KAL SPL is right, that only way to get even half-decent sound out of that in an enclosure is to build a pretty damn big one. If you haven't bought it yet than I wouldn't, you going to be hard pressed to get a free-air sub to work properly in a ute.
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    If you don't mind spending a little more than maybe try this model, Ryda Car Audio - Pioneer TS-W308D4 12" 1400W Subwoofer($178.85) , get the dual 4-ohm model so you can wire it up to 2-ohm and get more power from your amp, or buy a cheaper amp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebestsv8 View Post
    get a 3000w amp.

    DO ET
    What the hell man, every post you have made tonight is a complete waste of space, are you drunk or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acarmody View Post
    What the hell man, every post you have made tonight is a complete waste of space, are you drunk or something?
    No,

    He can always go twin 15"

    Plan in advance with car audio -.-
    My mates integra is quicker den my Ve ss wagen.

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    Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
    My mates integra is quicker den my Ve ss wagen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebestsv8 View Post
    No,

    He can always go twin 15"

    Plan in advance with car audio -.-
    Hope your joking.

    Where would you fit two 15" subs in a ute and still have it practical?

    EDIT: And if your going to make a pissing contest out of this, stop messing around with ordinary brands, 19,200wrms at 24V http://www.stetsom.com.br/eng/Detalh...c=8133&cat=172 , or 16,200wrms at 13.8v http://www.stetsom.com.br/eng/Detalh...c=8110&cat=172
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    Thats easy just put 1 behind each seat







    Oh wait , its a Holden ute my bad
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    Wow that's an awesome setup, but I highly doubt the OP is looking for that since hes looking at subs in the $150ish area. Still looks tough though.

    How would it sound while your driving, with the seats being so close to the cones that is?
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    Oh hurts quite badly !
    I torture tested on the way to Perth at full tilt for solid 2 hours with the windows down , I tried to shut the amps off but sadly I ran out of road
    Tested it at PC and it did 145Db

    My ears rang for the next 3 days !
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    Would have been an awesome massage though
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    Mate you have to put up the model number of the sub. Without it we don't know the impedance levels so there is no point in looking at an amp.

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    It's a single 4 ohm.

    Basically it has one voice coil, and the base impedance level of that coil is 4 ohm's.
    The amp you have listed puts out 200 rms @ 4 ohm. So yes it will drive the sub, just not quite to it's full potential.


    The reason why Acarmody reccomended the other sub above, was because of it's dual voice coil arrangement. Multiple coils allow you to wire them together to drop the impedance levels. It's difficult to find a mono block amplifier that produces decent power levels at 4 ohm, because they are all designed to run lower than that. Using any mono amp at a 4 ohm load is just limiting the amps potential.

    End of the day you have to spend more on the amp than what you did on the sub, and it still dosen't perform at it's best. You should have taken the advice on board that was given to you in the above posts.

    Did you buy the sub new, can you refund it or swap it? You don't have to spend any more than your combined budget, just picking the right components that will work well together is all.

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