What sort of audio setup would you recommend?

[a6491]

Hey all, Just want your input on how I should go about setting up my new audio gear. I'm on step away from buying it all, only thing holding me back is the wiring setup. I will have the following

2x2ch amp @ 300W RMS bridged 4ohm (one 2ch for each sub)
1x4ch amp @ 60W RMS per channel (for the splits)
1x1ch amp @ 700W RMS @ 4ohm (for the super sub one would say)

One idea i had thought was
1x4AG from battery directly to monoblock amp with capaciter in between.
1x4AG in distribution block to split to 3x8AG to go to the other 3 amps

OR

daisy chain, (recommended by dude at autobarn)
0AG from battery to mono, 4AG from mono to 2ch, 8AG from 2ch to the other 2ch, 8AG from 2ch to the 4ch.

I wanna know what other wiring setups you would recommend, any help would be greatly appreciated

[m1lky]

Firstly cap is a waste of time and money. Put that extra money into bigger wire or a new batt if necessary.

I'd go one 0gauge run to distro then 4 or 8 gauge to each amp.

[acarmody]

LOL you run 8AWG to a 700wrms amp and your fuses will keep blowing, if your car doesn't catch fire. Also you will need a lot more than one run of 4AWG for all of those amps. One 0AWG run to a distro block and than 4AWG to each amp should be OK.

Also don't listen to the retard from Autobarn, he's a retard.

Also why do you have two amps for subs? Are you mixing subs because that is a bad idea.

[sweefu]

Wut? Don't even go into autobarn to start with, for audio advice.
Listen to acarmody.
We need more details, hopefully you have not purchased the gear yet.
Please list all the gear going in your car from battery terminals to speakers, everything.

[a6491]

the 700watter sub
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood Car Audio KFC-WPS1D 12" Subwoofer($486.85)

2ch amps x2
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood KAC-M626 2 Channel Amplifier($169.85)

splits x2 for 4ch
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood CVar Audio KFC-P605IE 6" Splits($158.85)

2x10" subs for the 2ch
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood KFC-W2512 10" Subwoofer($91.85)

the 4ch amp for the splits
Ryda Car Audio - Kenwood KAC-M846 4 Channel Amplifier($198.85)

as you can tell i can only afford low-mid range gear. but before that i had no namer brands like soundstorm lab, although they kicked arse, i want a known brand just to see how the perform, i'm starting to lean towards soundstream.

but yes with that amps i have listed above should suffice for the subs and speakers.. the reason i hace 2x2ch amps cause it works out cheaper than buying a monoblock for each of them, mainly cause of the wonders of bridging haha!! unless I go for another monoblock and do series setup for the 2 10" subs.. think it was series, or parallel, cant remember. thanks for the input so far

[acarmody]

That setup is a serious waste of unnecessary money and will sound quite bad.

Buy 1 Sub, with 1 Mono amp, 1 set of splits, and 1 amp to drive them. See where I going with this?

Not trying to be harsh mate but mixes subs will sound very bad, and why buy two sets of basic speakers when you can get one good set that will crap all over the two lesser pairs?

[sweefu]

acarmody beat me to it. ^^ That is very good advice, do that and don't do anything else. Put your budget into LESS gear and it will sound BETTER

[acarmody]

Yeah I'm good at ninja'ing in like that. My next skill to acquire is to get a life, LOL.

[acarmody]

OP One good sub like this, Shopping Secure - VIBE Space 12 - (Powered by CubeCart) , will go louder and sound better than even 3 identical lesser subs. I say identical because mixing sub will results in the worst sounding bass you can imagine, unless you have a very well engineered setup.

Also cheaper.

And what amp where you planning on buying to power the big sub?

EDIT: An amp like this http://www.ryda.com.au/ProductDetail...Show=TechSpecs , or http://www.shoppingsecure.com.au/ind...d&productId=39 would be needed.

[a6491]

Yea But i've gone for that setup before with 1 sub, 1 mono, 1 splits, 1 amp and I want moar. i'm greedy i guess haha!! But yeah, i'm now looking into soundstream gear atm, wonders of ebay.

p.s the 2x10" subs i only want them for kick because they will be mounted right behind the back seat. the 12" sub i want to achieve grantiguous amounts of bass. if its possible, i'll attempt to do it. if not.. yeah.. I may even stick with the

"Buy 1 Sub, with 1 Mono amp, 1 set of splits, and 1 amp to drive them. See where I going with this?"

but if thats the case, what gear to get? any suggestions with reasonable price range would be awesome.

I have about $1500 to blow.

a.k.a no boston, been there, and crap imo.

[acarmody]

Does that include the sub enclosure and the wiring kit?

[Nic92]

dont mix subs, if you want more then go bigger not by having all sorts of crap in the boot, have 1 BIG sub or multiple SMALL subs, all same brand and model, dont mix, if you want that little kick and the big punch, then get a amp with a remote bass and use that to controll the bass level for when you want a little kick or when you want it blasting, also get the right amp, mono are usually for multiple subs single coils or single subs dual coils, mono's are better for 2ohm and 1ohm loads, 2 channel amps are good for bridging a 4ohm load with a single sub, youd get more out of a mono amp

[a6491]

sub enclosure and wiring i have sorted acarmody (Y)

and nic92 i understand what you mean, i plan to go all the one brand, so far i have

Soundstream Tarantular series 12" subwoofer T5-12 NIB (eBay item 230620905778 end time 23-May-11 00:26:22 AEST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats <-sub
SOUNDSTREAM PX1.1300D 1300W MONOBLOCK AMP CAR AMPLIFIER (eBay item 190533161367 end time 13-Jun-11 06:08:48 AEST) : Consumer Electronics <-mono

on watch, imo i think its a good setup for the sub, dunno what to go for with the amp to power the splits, as in, what soundstream amp and splits do i get?

[sweefu]

Don't just say Boston is crap, maybe you had a bad experience with one of their products and I know there is no chance you've listened to / used every single one of their products. Boston make some amazing gear.
Secondly, For front splits i'd go with some Morel Maximo's or Morel Temopo 6's .. They come in at ~$200 and ~$300 respectively, and the Teompo 6's sound amazing for the money.

As for sub, I time and time again recommend the Exodus Shiva X2, if the budget allows. (Audiomarketplace - Exodus Shiva-X2 Subwoofer) Amazing sounding sub, will give you a nice kick. Note though, I am bias for SQ oriented gear. Are you looking for some crazy volume, or crazy clarity? Whats your aim with the stereo?

Where abouts are you located also?

[acarmody]

OK Cool you already have the sub and amp, well really all you need is a set of splits and an amp to drive them.

[a6491]

sweefu i may be unfair with boston, I prob did have bad run with them cause the buggers didn't wanna work at first (long story)
the exodus im very familiar with and would like to get a set.. i will read into the splits you recommended.
and achievement for this setup is clarity. which is why i'm willin to spend a few extra $$ on splits, because they make a HUGE difference. but would also love to have my bass lines, as well as kick if possible.

[a6491]

OK Cool you already have the sub and amp, well really all you need is a set of splits and an amp to drive them.

the sub and amp i have on watch should do the job but yeah, splits and amp.. gotta a bit of searchin to do haha!!

[a6491]

Don't just say Boston is crap, maybe you had a bad experience with one of their products and I know there is no chance you've listened to / used every single one of their products. Boston make some amazing gear.
Secondly, For front splits i'd go with some Morel Maximo's or Morel Temopo 6's .. They come in at ~$200 and ~$300 respectively, and the Teompo 6's sound amazing for the money.

As for sub, I time and time again recommend the Exodus Shiva X2, if the budget allows. (Audiomarketplace - Exodus Shiva-X2 Subwoofer) Amazing sounding sub, will give you a nice kick. Note though, I am bias for SQ oriented gear. Are you looking for some crazy volume, or crazy clarity? Whats your aim with the stereo?

Where abouts are you located also?

Oh, I live in tasmania haha.. sad, i know.

[acarmody]

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[a6491]

considered

been looking into Soundstream Picasso PCC.6N 6.5" 2 Way Component Speaker | eBay <- just to match the whole sound stream setup. reckon it'd be any good?

[acarmody]

Hmmm from Malaysia, good chance they are fakes mate. That price is way too cheap.

Honestly one brand is not a good idea. Most brands don't make all their products the same, some make better H/U, while some make better speakers, and some better sub. Also why does all one brand matter, you can't see the speakers when they are behind the factory grills.

[Nic92]

sub enclosure and wiring i have sorted acarmody (Y)

and nic92 i understand what you mean, i plan to go all the one brand, so far i have

Soundstream Tarantular series 12" subwoofer T5-12 NIB (eBay item 230620905778 end time 23-May-11 00:26:22 AEST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats <-sub
SOUNDSTREAM PX1.1300D 1300W MONOBLOCK AMP CAR AMPLIFIER (eBay item 190533161367 end time 13-Jun-11 06:08:48 AEST) : Consumer Electronics <-mono

on watch, imo i think its a good setup for the sub, dunno what to go for with the amp to power the splits, as in, what soundstream amp and splits do i get?

not bad woofer and amp combo

[a6491]

acarmody - very true point, i prob have a bad case of OCD XD
but yeah, still in the researchin stage atm

[acarmody]

We could recommend products all day but at the end of the day everyone has different ears, what could sound good to one person could sound bad to another. Subs that's not a big issue, but door speakers much more so.

Not coming north any time soon? Vic and NSW have some nice audio stores with walls of speakers to listen too.

[a6491]

not coming up north sorry mate haha!! only "decent" audio gear we got here is kenwood XD