Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 70

Thread: 9 Tips On Installing Car Stereos

  1. #1
    Kim
    Kim is offline
    Ride
    VK Wagon

    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    63

    Default

    1. Don't use cheap speaker wire. That really thin cheap wire really drops off the sound quality at the speaker. It doesn't cost much to get good quality fine stranded dual core speaker cable.

    2. Solder your connections. Crimping connectors can lead to poor connections and higher resistance joins therefore reduces the signal getting through to your speakers.

    3. Planning. Don't cut anything until you have checked it thoroughly. Both sides, all sides, in and out. It is better to use a board on a back deck than to cut open the deck to make bigger holes. Many cars have the small 3x4 inch holes than won't take 6 inch round or 6x9 speakers. Better to make up a board to raise the speakers (an improve resonance) than to cut out holes. In many cars it is illegal to cut too much of the metal away in the rear deck (supposedly compromises body impact integrity...).

    4. Testing! Always test everything before you put trims back on and screw the head unit into the dash. It is easier to fix problems with everthing still out.

    5. Instead of using the earth in the wiring loom, find a screw that goes into the metal of the body to earth your amps and head units. Poor earthing causes untold problems from scrtchy sounds, signal clipping, tapes playing all wonky, reduced radio reception, poor tolerance to bass boosting. Also, unbalanced earthing between amps and head units cause nasty nasty static or humms.

    6. Make sure you KNOW what that wire you get constant/accessory power from is for! If in doubt run new wires directly from the fuse box (yellow for accessory and red for constant). Be careful and make sure there is a fuse in the circuit somewhere.

    7. Make sure your speakers and amps are balanced. When buying speakers some of the better quality ones are rate with RMS (Root Mean Squared) others are rated with Max (or PMP - Peak Music Pressure). As a rule of Thumb 50W RMS would perform as well as 80-90W Max. In fact, Many speakers that say they can handle a millisecond burst of power to 200W (for example) are really only about 80 watts RMS on a good day. Many car amps are the same. that 4x150W amp is probably only putting our 4x60W RMS.

    On that note, If you have 4 quality 50W RMS speakers they can produce more sound than your ears can hear. If you run them with a 4x200W (Max)cheapie AMP they should rock!

    8. RCA from Head unit to AMP is ALWAYS to be preferred.

    9. OK, in general the sound is only as good as the weakest component. I find that good wire, connections, power make a huge difference. Average and even cheapie amps do fine (if they are big enough). Speakers make a big difference especially with bass response. Most head units (except for crap cheap ones) produce good quality CD audio these days so are not as important.

    Hope this helps,
    Kim
    (Used to own a car stereo and alarm installation business)

  2. #2
    OSL-060's Avatar
    OSL-060 is offline Banned

    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    SE QLD
    Posts
    1,298

    Default

    Sounds great Kim, thanks for taking the time to write it up and sharing your knowledge.

    Cheers

    Jake

  3. #3
    PIMPIN's Avatar
    PIMPIN is offline The Lurker
    Ride
    VTII Calais 3.8 WHII Statesman LS1

    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    VIC
    Posts
    607

  4. #4
    Tony Guest

    Default

    yeah, i've abided by all of those except the max power's when doing my install. (This was before i realised that buying 200W speakers cause they said 200W wasnt the best idea )

  5. #5
    andrewro Guest

    Default

    Great advise, I have a standard VXII unit and the CD sounds alot better that the radio and as you say bass responce is crap so some better speakers (I will assume that the ohmage that holden use is the right one) should maka reasonable difference. I will probably go for new 6 inchs at the front as they already have splits and splits in the rear.

    Thanks

  6. #6
    Ride
    VE Berlina International II

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,352

    Default

    Great advice Thx kim,
    Thats all right, thats ok, I drive a commodore anyway!!!!

  7. #7
    Ride
    VS Acclaim Series II

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    North Gold Coast
    Posts
    1,202

    Default

    Ahh what a great guide....when i get around to doing my boot install and a full upgrade of my system im going for nothing but the best in wiring and soldering everything (even if my soldering does suck )
    What do you want to drink today?
    Ride: VS Acclaim Series 2 + K&n Air Filter

  8. #8
    MaNiac_VP is offline Mr Moderator !
    Ride
    VPII Calais

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    660

    Default

    There are some mighty fine tips there from lots of experience, if only I had them 6 months ago! Looks like you had an interesting business going there.

    I have always had a problem forgetting rule # 4 personally, I never seem to learn from that.



  9. #9
    MaNiac_VP is offline Mr Moderator !
    Ride
    VPII Calais

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    660

  10. #10
    Kim
    Kim is offline
    Ride
    VK Wagon

    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    63

  11. #11
    DANNY8's Avatar
    DANNY8 is offline Yo Coooornflake!
    Ride
    VT SS 5.0L, VK WAGZ 5.0L

    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Port Pirie, South Australia
    Posts
    2,249

  12. #12
    Ride
    vr 5 speed

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    383

    Default

    don't worry maniac_vp i think most people including myself forget that rule because we excited because it's finished so we put it all back togeather and then something doesn't work. I know cause it happened to me.

    cheers

    scott

  13. #13
    VTLUVA Guest

    Default

    kim,
    i just bought a VT and want to instore my other sound system ... what colour wire means what on the standard(factory) radio/cassette player in most VT, i have sony/explode head unit, 5channel amp and 12in sub .... any help would be great...

  14. #14
    Ride
    VP Commodore

    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    8

    Default

    Just what i am after, excellent Kim.

    Q My VP has only the front speakers, i have had the standard radio out and there appears to be enough wires to accommodate speakers at the rear, does the speaker wiring loom venture to the rear under the parcel shelf or do i need to run new wires? also when fitting speakers to the rear if i get your suggestion correct, do you suggest not cutting at all into the rear parcel shelf and rear tray?

  15. #15
    shell_inglis Guest

    Default Help

    i have no idea how to put my speakers in i have a 1991 vp executive and i cant get the bak thingy off to put my speakers (6'9 splits) in i also have a sub woofer and 2 amps i want to move the amps and re capert my boot but the guy who had the car before me did all the wireing really bad! so considering i have never done this before i totally dont have a clue what to do.. i need a new bak dash i think but where in the hell do i get one from? any information would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanku so much
    shell

  16. #16
    Ride
    VT SS 5.0

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Seaford, Melbourne
    Posts
    309

  17. #17
    sjersoy Guest

    Default that's fully sick

    i just broughta new kenwood kdc-8026 kenwood 6in speakers spit speakers fusion 12in subwoofer fusion 4 channel .And my kit is rocking i call it fully sic. I ONLY DRIVE COMMODORE .IF ANY BODY WANT STEREO PUT IN THERECAR CALL CAR AUDIO EXCELLENCE THERE AT BLACKTOWN 153 MAIN STREE BLACKTOWN NSW 2148 PH(02) 88149244 FAX (02) 88149245 ST MARY'3/130 FORRESTER ROAD ST MARY'S NSW 2760 PH(02) 98334477 FAX (02) 98333561 AND LAST PENRITH 242 HIGH STREET PENRITH2750 PH (02) 47314477 FAX (02) 47316688 THAT WERE I GOT FROM @ BLACKTOWN THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE AND MY ALARM & ENGINE IMMOBILISER DONE THERE MY NEXT IS DVD PLAYER YOU R RIGHT WITH THE WIRES THEY HAVE TO BE THICK

  18. #18
    Ride
    88 VN CALAIS 5.0

    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    30

    Default

    Very good tips kim, i do commodore stereo's myself & i just have 2 small things to add .. use 90 degree rca leads (bent at 1 end) at the rear of the deck (if using rca's) coz u wont be able to sit the stereo right back in the dash in the case of most stereo's in most commodores inless rca's are bent. Be careful of not connecting circuit earth's up, some stuff has more than 10 ohm resistance between circuit earth and chassi earth (mainly noticed this in the case of mobile fone + cb radio gear) so i would be incline to double up on earths as apposed to cliping the circuit earth out of the wiring. Theres my 2 bob .. Matt

  19. #19
    AngCalais Guest

    Default

    Given that you have had a business before I was wondering whether you had any contacts or suggestions on the cost of installing a CD player and 4 speakers in a 1989 vn calais?


    Regards

    Ange

  20. #20
    Tasmaniak's Avatar
    Tasmaniak is offline Not a valid input....
    Ride
    car

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    4,069

    Default

    That was well written Kim, may I add a 10th tip? Well, I'm going to!

    10, Ensure you have the correct size power cable to any amplifiers, running small power cable can cause hassles with headlights and dash dimming. Not only that but also, the amplfier will try to draw more power as it is being "choked" of the current that is required to produce the power required.

  21. #21
    azkwazere is offline Ahhh Yes, Ahhh Yes....
    Ride
    VP 5-SPD / 24-SPD Racer Hybrid

    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    .....SE Burbs
    Posts
    1,807

    Default Note to all VP owners...

    If you had the same problem as i did, which im sure you do, you dont have rear speakers! this made me angry, so what i did is just ran new wiring, its not that hard. i emailed eurovox and got the wiring diagram which i am happy to email out to anyone who needs it so that you can install your stero. The rear shelf as far as i know is installed before the rear windscreen is put in, so it makes getting the thing out really hard! the way i did it was stupid, i cracked it....by accident and then just bent it in the middle and pulled it out, once screwed back down it didn't matter much but it was stupid none the less. advice for that would be to try and remove the rear window if possible or contact local holden dealership or audio install professional.

    Hope that provides light to a VP owner somewhere!

  22. #22
    Tasmaniak's Avatar
    Tasmaniak is offline Not a valid input....
    Ride
    car

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    4,069

    Default

    Actually, if you removed the back seats, you would've found that the parcel shelf will slide out....no need to remove the rear windscreen at all......I must admit though. That is quite funny.....
    You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!

  23. #23
    vn88calais's Avatar
    vn88calais is offline Perth Representative
    Ride
    VY Commodore 2002

    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Perth, Western Australia
    Posts
    391

    Default

    cheers kim...great help
    VY works currently in PRODUCTION!!

    Engine will still be sloow!!!!! ;-)

  24. #24
    vlv8vic's Avatar
    vlv8vic is offline <---Brad Quaid = internet stalker
    Ride
    M5

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    3,774

    Default

    really? VPs came out with no rear speakers? back seat takes about 2 minutes to rip out. would have thought there might be wiring chucked behind there somewhere cos id imagine other variations of the model may have has speakers there.

    my camry had no speakers on the shelf but the wiring was neatly attached to the plate behind the seat. i guess the better models had speakers.

  25. #25
    Tasmaniak's Avatar
    Tasmaniak is offline Not a valid input....
    Ride
    car

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    4,069

    Default

    vlv8vic..the Camry....Do you mean I pull out the seat back rest and thats where the wiring is hiding? I'm planning on dropping a pair of 6"s into the rear of the wifes 91 Camry.

    Sometime.....
    Soonish?....
    Perhaps....
    Better things to do first!....
    Stealth VL....mmmmmmmm

    !_E-VL_!
    You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Car Stereos and Speakers for VX Commodore SS
    By joedih in forum VT - VX Holden Commodore (1997 - 2002)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-11-2006, 07:50 PM
  2. Crappy Stock Stereos
    By EvoVIIIJDM in forum VZ Holden Commodore (2004 - 2006)
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 13-01-2006, 07:52 AM
  3. who knows stereos?
    By spice weasel (BAM) in forum Car Audio
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 19-08-2005, 09:40 AM
  4. Stereos And Cd Stacker
    By Jono in forum VT - VX Holden Commodore (1997 - 2002)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-06-2005, 09:03 PM
  5. Vt Stereos...
    By bradwilks80 in forum VT - VX Holden Commodore (1997 - 2002)
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-04-2004, 12:23 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71