fitting 6.5" into the REAR of a VS

[Brycestro]

Hey all, i've been looking around at speakers and it seems to be that as a general thing, better speakers are available in the 6.5" range than in the 6" range. I understand the VS commodore comes stock with 6"s in both front and rear, what i'm wanting to know is how much trouble exactly is it to install 6.5" speakers into the REAR of a VS? I've read the threads surrounding the install of 6x9's and i understand for these you need to cut the spot welds or something similar... with 6.5"s is there anyway you can make them simply fit in without too much modification or will it be required???

I'm also desperately chasing pictures of the process from someone who's done it... i haven't had a chance to pull out the back seat and have a look yet.

Thanks, Bryce

[Stretchomatic]

hey i bought new pioneer splits and 3 ways and the splits are 6.5 inch and fitted perfect in the front, i'm pretty sure that they should fit the back, i wouldnt be surprised if the speakers r 6 inch but the metal surround bumps it up to 6.5 inch, and i'm pretty sure my 3 ways were 6.5 they went straight in...if this doesnt answer ur question at least it will get it to the top of the new posts section lol

[Brycestro]

ah cool, anyone able to clarify this fully? another question man, you said you put your pioneer 6.5" splits in the front... how do you go about mounting them? because aren't the old speakers screws positioned specifically for a 6" speaker... i.e. the 6.5" speaker would actually overlap the spot the screws went into on the 6"s and you'd need to drill new holes for screws or something?

[phat_com]

just go to JB hifi or some audio store and buy some nice spacers (even super cheap has some) and screw them on and then screw your speakers on the spacers
otherwise just rip out the old grinder and make the hole a bit bigger (rego inspectors and coppers wouldn't defect you for it)

[Brycestro]

so are spacers designed to give you a larger mounting depth or simply to allow you to mount something like 6.5"s or 6x9's where there was initially only 6"s? Because i'm wanting the standard parcel shelf speaker grill bit to go back on over it again ideally

[Patrio7]

i got pioneer 6.5" 3ways in the rear of mine, it was a great fit, they just screwed back into the stock mounting bracket using the old screws [ it had the propper three point mounting and everything ] so at the moment i run them with the stock grilles over the top [ it clears the tweeter assembly by a few mm so its all good ]

[Brycestro]

Ok Patrio7 cool, that's a little more reassuring. Has anyone else ever had the problem of trying to mount 6.5"s into 6" speaker positions without modification? Also can anyone answer my question about spacers: "so are spacers designed to give you a larger mounting depth or simply to allow you to mount something like 6.5"s or 6x9's where there was initially only 6"s? Because i'm wanting the standard parcel shelf speaker grill bit to go back on over it again ideally"

[muffman001]

its hard to say because i tryed to fit 6.5 inch 3 way fusions in a vr ss
i had a very hard time and did not end up getting them in the edge of the speakers were to fat and didnt fit in then when i cut the spacer thats in the door i coulnt get the grill to fit over the tweeters also couldnt get them up the back eather the magnet was to big and i couldnt mount them with out cutting the metal frames out so i replaced them for a 6 inch speaker

but some do fit i would take the old speaker out and take it with you to the shop when you bye a new set just to c how big the diffrence is in the speaker saves you alot of stuffing around if thay dont fit

[Stretchomatic]

yer the pioneers fit beautifully into mine, front and back, no special stuff needed.

[mattman]

for those with the pioneers... what did you pay for them? what models? did you need an amp?

Sorry for all the q's but looking at upgrading ... probably won't do anything about the stock HU just yet as it's still fine for me, just run ipod off the 3.5mm cd input. Don't use front speakers at all (drivers side is crapped) and rear speakers are just stockies and give out way too soon.

[Brycestro]

Ok, thanks everyone for your feedback... tis much appreciated. Coming back to one of my main questions again here though, are spacers designed to
a) Simply give you more mounting depth OR
b) Allow you to mount large speakers where small speakers originally were? (i.e. have like one part screw into the standard 6" mounting holes and then have the other part at the top have mounting holes for say 6.5" or 6x9" speakers)?

Thanks

[mattman]

Ok well have done it myself now.. the pioneer 6.5" 3 ways fit in just fine without the covers...they are the TS-A1671S if you are interested.

No idea on the spacers sorry, but if you are looking for a nice upgrade from stockies and aren't planning on going to a sub, these sound pretty good from what i've heard so far

Edit: And I'm $2.10 richer (loose change under the seat) :P

[Brycestro]

Ok well have done it myself now.. the pioneer 6.5" 3 ways fit in just fine without the covers...they are the TS-A1671S if you are interested.

No idea on the spacers sorry, but if you are looking for a nice upgrade from stockies and aren't planning on going to a sub, these sound pretty good from what i've heard so far

Edit: And I'm $2.10 richer (loose change under the seat) :P

Don't have any pictures of you installing them by chance do you? oh, and how long did it take?

[mattman]

Nah no pics sorry.. cam is at work.

You have to take out the back seats to get the parcel shelf off, but after that it's pretty straight forward.

Took me maybe an hour, but that's with alot of stuffing around and not really knowing what I was doing :P