Speaker repair

[jaisvz]

I have a pair of Pioneer (TS-C160R) splits residing in the front doors of my VZ. Recently i noticed the passenger side door woofer has cut out completely, but if i put the volume high i would get some distorted audio out of it. I have removed the woofer and inspected it, and it seems the problem is the negative wire that travels from the terminals to the cones has become weak and only conducts when it is held in a certain postion. Considering the cost of these splits, i would love to have a go at repairing it rather than replacing them (around $300, meh). It seems the break in the wire is pretty close to the terminals, so i considered carefully coating the break in solder. But im not sure how this would hold up....
I would appreciate it muchly if i could get some opinions on this matter.
Thanks heaps!

[StoneX]

Take them back to store, Pioneer will assess and replace if it wasn't your fault

[jaisvz]

i purchased them online, so that might be a bit hard...
what do you think about attempting to repair them?

[HoZy]

I'd attempt to repair them, There not working currently, I dont think it can get any worse...

Cheers
MaT

[Tasmaniak]

Don't get your iron to hot, dont keep the iron on the tinsel leads for a long period of time. Get it on...get it off. Have the solder already on the iron.

Don't overdrive them again.

[jaisvz]

okay, thanks for the tips 12volt.
i'll let you know how i go

[Tasmaniak]

generaly that repair is only good for larger speakers like subs, but it will certainly work for 6"

[semi]

i did the exact same thing to my pair of 160's too. Got someone else to resolder it coz im shit at soldering and paid about 10 bucks. All good since then

[jaisvz]

Okay, so i attempted the repair. Turns out the break was very close to the terminals, so close that i had to strip away the white silicone (that is put over the join) so i could make the solder fuse. The wire was only holding on by about 3 strands of wire! I tilted the speaker away so that if any solder fell it wouldn't land on the cone, coated the iron tip in solder, transfered the solder to the break and smoothed it out nicely. Anyways, the repair was successful and the woofer sounds like new again. Thank for your help guys!

[StoneX]

The only problem with resoldering tinsel leads is that solder seeps up the lead when hot and will cause it to snap in the future, but at least it's fixed for now

[Tasmaniak]

StoneX is right it's only a temporary repair. But it's running again and may do so for years.

[andrewgrazier]

yeah i dont think that the solder will get hot from running a speaker :P

[StoneX]

The solder seeps up the inside of the lead WHEN YOU SOLDER IT, not when playing the speaker. This makes the lead stiffer than normal and will eventually lead to it snapping again.

[andrewgrazier]

hyaha oops OHh yeah

n the heat could also melt the cone of the speaker too :S that wouldnt be nice

[garfa]

only if you solder like an elephant with boxing gloves on!

[StoneX]

Nah, no matter how quick you are, it still seeps more than when it was originally done.

[HoZy]

Nah, no matter how quick you are, it still seeps more than when it was originally done.

So why do you think some top repairers wrap desoldering braid around about 3mm up the tinsel leads they solder on, works wonders... I've seen the repair done with it, an the only stiff bits are exactly where the repairs are, It's incredible work.

Cheers
MaT

[StoneX]

Obviously, if desoldering braid or heatsink pliers are used, it will help

[garfa]

Nah, no matter how quick you are, it still seeps more than when it was originally done.

yeah i realise that i was just talking about the melting of the speaker cone!

[Tasmaniak]

So why do you think some top repairers wrap desoldering braid around about 3mm up the tinsel leads they solder on, works wonders... I've seen the repair done with it, an the only stiff bits are exactly where the repairs are, It's incredible work.

Cheers
MaT

So why do you think that the TOP repairers of speakers don't solder the tinsel leads instead they replace them? Because it isn't incredible work. Infact all it does it lowers the surface area of the solder. Fact still remains is that it has a stiffened point.

If its wortht repairing then it's worth repairing right the first time.