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VS Sound Advice
G'day Guys,
I was just wonderign for some advice for my sound setup, not going for any huge mainly due to a bit of a tight budget, can spend a few hundred but dont wanna go overboard ya know, I also dont really know much.
OK well ive already got a deck, its a Pioneer DEH-P355OMP, n some 5" Pioneers, TS-A1680S, i dunno if either of em are any good but they'll do for me. ok so was planning on puttin the 5"s in the front doors n like some 6"s in the rear mainly coz i dont wanna cut anything out. So was just wondering what speakers to buy for the back and if they 5ers will do for the front.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers
GOD
dont bother with 5s, 6" speakers fit fine in the door pods.
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yeah just checked em out n they are 6"s not 5"s, so yeah would that sound alright but having 6"s in the back aswell?
Yeh u want minimum 6ers. But then again u don't need to go top of the range. just look at getting a sub & amp pack, then wind the bass down a bit on the head unit, and wind it up a bit on the amp. Bass is the main thing that distorts audio, and by using a sub for the bass, u will find u can crank it loud with less bass distortion.
I just got a $70 sub/amp box and using stock VR speakers....sounds fine
yup it does sound ok. but unfortunately there will be a BIG gap where the mid-range used to be. subs cant fill that and neither can un-amped 6 inch speakers.
GOD
If you're only gonna be spending a couple of hundred on splits/speakers, then they should fit fine. Once you get into 6.5" or the more expensive speakers, then the magnets are chunkier and you might start ahving troubles with them fitting.
Also, i agree with garfa, you're going to have a big gap between your midbass (which you will have very little of) and sub-bass
HoldenSS
Nah 6'5 in" front splits will fit fine in a VS if you got speaker pods.if your getting a sub go the same power rating for the back speakers so sound quality is balanced and one side isnt louder or softer or lacking tone quality.If you have splits in the front and component in the back you wont miss this Mid range bass! Then your sub should be enough for the lack of "bass-to-sub" levels.With amps of course!
If your not buying a sub then i recommend 6x9 for the back but good quality ones! But balance the front speakers again with the backs cause you dont wanna drown out the fronts.The bad news if you want great sound you gotta pay great prices!
GOD
not all 6.5" will fit in VS pods, they often need modifying to fit, especially ones wiht big chunky magnets
we were talking about using stock speakers with bass remove via the h/u and just getting a sub and amp pack.Originally Posted by VSSS97
um splits and components are the same, but there is not really any need for splits in the rear in most peoples cars.
also do you mean to say to have your subs power handling the as near to the rear speakers as possible? the efficency is a just as much a key factor as power handling, but either way its definly NOT ideal to have the rears and sub/s matched to each other in terms of power handling.
no need for 6x9's just spend a few grand on a set of 3 way splits with an 8 inch driver.
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LOL a few grand aye.... shit you want me to get you some aswell? lol nah, but yeah i am planning on getting a sub but just wanted to put my h/u in and thought i might aswell put some speakers in while ive got it ripped apart yeah? yeah but if i put 69ers in wont i have to mount them up or cut apart the back abit? didnt really wanna do that thats why i was just thinking 6ers, but i dont want it to sound shit ya know....
if you don't want it to sound shit then stick with your initial plan of 6"s in the rear. If your going to have a sub, 6"s in the rear sound better than 6 x 9's. If your not going to have a sub, use 6 x 9's in the rear to give you SOME bass.
Put the 5s in the rear or some cheap 6-6.5 inch coax and run them off the head unit. Get some decent 6-6.5 inch splits for the front and a 4 channel amp to run them and the sub. You won't miss the rears.
IMO, the front splits are by far the most important thing in the system. Everything else should be chosen to match/compliment them. So choose an amp to match the splits and then choose a sub to suit the bridged channels 3+4 of the 4 channel. Usually best with a 4 ohm load, so single voice coil 4 ohm or dvc 2 ohm. Power rated about the same as the amps output.
My 2 cents...cheers
JVC
Focal
JL Audio
VDO Dayton
Jaycar
Dynamat Extreme/Dynaxorb
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okok, so... what your saying is to use the 6ers i got for the back n go buy some splits n use them for the front. can i just run all them off the h/u for the time being? then when i get some cash, buy an amp n sub n then run the splits n sub off the amp yeah?
yeah im still tryna learn about all this stuff n dont really have a clue about bridging n ohms atm but im getting there, lol so yeah i should just go out n buy some mad splits for the time being yeah?
Yeah you've pretty much got the idea there now. Sound from up front is alot more important than sound at the back. You'll actually find there's heavy debate over whether rear speakers actually make your system sound better or worse. So yeah, for the time being grab some nice splits for up front. If you still want rears, get some later but don't go spending a fortune when that money could be better put to the front splits. Then if you do have rears, fade them out so they're just for 'fill' sound. As you said, when you then get an amplifier, run your front splits from 2 channels and bridge 2 channels for the sub leaving any rear speakers running off the headunit. For the time being until you can afford an amp though running your front splits and any rears you may get off your headunit will suffice.
Cheers, Bryce.
Yep, thats the go. Bit by bit and get the best quality stuff (in your opinion) you can fit in your budget. Make a cd of your favorite tracks and go audition some splits. Pick the ones that sound best to you. Look for brands such as focal, boston acoustics, mb quart, hertz, morel, DLS... etc. Do a search for other brands as well.
Jaycar kevlar splits are ok for the money (~$160) if money is tight. I have also heard that JVC make some $200 splits that are very good for the money. Some of the specialist brands above also have entry level stuff around $250. Expect to pay ~$500 for good quality mid range splits though. $800 to over $1k for excellent ones. Try to find stuff on special. Alpine have some very good value pakages at the moment. Maybe you might like the sound of their speakers, personally i don't. Although the type x are ok. I prefer the focal sound, others don't.
Remember to budget for sound deadening the front doors at least. Good speakers deserve good installation, they will give their best then. Made a very noticable difference to the mid bass from my focals. Well worth the time and money.
Have fun, cheers.
Last edited by phree; 11-08-2006 at 04:19 PM.
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oh sweet cheers everyone for ya help, going up 500 - 1k is just a tad outta my range but im sure ill be able to find some within the budget. n one last thing... what is sound deadening n how much will it cost?
This is a really big discussion on the subject, http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/for...howtopic=50295
Check out the technical article at the top of the first thread.
Another set of splits that have a good rep at the moment are digital designs (DD) can't remember the number, $329 rrp from memory. Said to be very good for the money. Haven't heard them yet myself. Won some contest in a mag recently against splits worth twice as much. If you can believe everything you read, they should be stunning value.
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Sweet, cheers mate n thanks to everyone for thier advice... just realised my rego runs out at the end of the month so might have to put the speakers on hold once again
GOD
arent they dd c6.5s?? something like that
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