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just wondering what i should get looking for some 6.5" splits and a head unit i dont wanna spend a lot but want a good speaker i plan on getting a sub + amps down the track also. so i want something that i wont have to change down the track.
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There's so much choice out there that it's too hard to just suggest any particular item. At least let us know your budget...
Anyway I'd say go down to your local car audio store (JB Hifi, Strathfield etc..) and have a look at their range. I am personally a big fan of Pioneer head unit's, mainly for their look, but I've also always used them so I know all their functions and whatnot. They have a great variety of decks, catering for any budget really. I wouldn't go too cheap though... if you're adding amp/s and sub later you'll want at least two sets of preouts... the cheaper decks generally only have one set. As far as speakers go, just go and audition a few different ones and see what you like best. It's too hard to suggest anything in particular without knowing your budget.
yeah i want a h/u with 3 pre outs front rear n sub or whatever. but 2 would be fine budget hmm 300 for splits n 300 for deck possibly 400 i want a good sound. i have just come from 6.5" 2 way alpine type s and 6*9 type s 3 way and gone to a pioneer 6.5" and 4" both off the same h/u and i can compair it to bashing your head into a brick.... even compared to the old speakers, which i know are still cheap(less than 200 for all 4).
people here dont like alpine because of problems with them so i would stay away from them yeah?(although through my experiances they are better than pioneer/ sony/kenwood etc. of the same price) would anyone reccomend a brand called quartz? apparently there ok and i can get some splits for 100 from them. i wnat a mp3 h/u with ipod n what ever other fancy stuff they come with if it not too expensive.. thanks for help.
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I got Cerwin Vega 6.5" splits.. They are great... I had a friend do me a deal of 2xCerwin amps, 1x12"Cerwin sub, 6.5" Cerwin splits, and 6x9" Cerwin for 2k ... It sounds awesome.... I bought a slightly used Pioneer deck, for $500 ... to top it off...
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wen u choose ur HU think of it as ur heart of ur system this is where u should b spending most of ur budget on as it wants 2 run everything from it wat uve suggested is wat u wanna get im also another pioneer fan but u dont have 2 stick 2 it go have a look wats around on display use the fuctions and its features then decide but stick 2 the known brands
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buy a head unit with 3 pre outs. preferably a pioneer as they will provide a good range of audio adjustments for value for money. I reccomend focal 6.5 polyglass splits. this will cost around 700 including deck. gary's car radio.
Tried telling him that we he PMd us!Originally Posted by wrx884
Though did not wish to send $500.00 on what he wanted to get in features as he wanted IPOD control via the AUX in which is possible though only the DEH-P HU from Pioneer will do that as they are ACC compatiable.
The HU without the P before the number there is no chance and these are the ones in his budget range of $200-$300.00
Still think the DEH-P7850BT is good value at $499.00
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didnt i say 400 for deck? oops. i dont need ipod i actually dont have one i was just saying that in case there are some in my budget that come with it. i thought that splits would be the most important part?? what pioneer unit has 3 preouts + mp3(not ipod type just mp3 CDs) and is under 400? i know i have to look around just wondering what people like and what not to touch.
CAFO how much for a DEH-P5850MP? it has everything i want but should be a whole lot cheaper. In what way is it worse than the DEH-P7850BT? as far as i can see it just has no ipod, bluetooth and a non-motorised face. what is different in how it will sound? thanks.
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The P5850MP is now discontinued and superceeded by the P5950IB which we now have stock again... these are where the 3 RCA start in the Pioneer HU range as the 4950MP and below are only 2 RCAs
They are $399.00
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oh right. would i get a special deal? or is that it. me thinks he said 400 coz that what i said i would spend :S
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The 5950ib will not be discounted when they come out in Mid Fed though we have stock now of them
The will RRP$469.00
So $70.00 off is pretty good as it is almost 20%
Plus I still say the 7850Bt is the way to go as it is 4 models up from the 5950bt even.
Better Processors, tuners - super tuner V more functions etc
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I got my DEH-P6750MP a while ago for about $450... don't know if they still stock them or not but it's a good head unit, mp3/wav compatible, and supports the add-on accessories like the iPod adaptor (although that does cost an additional $150). It only has 2 sets of pre-outs, but in my opinion that's all you really need.
1 set for front stage (splits up front) and 1 set for sub/s. Unless you wanna go all out and amp your rear speakers too but I don't find that necessary. Of course it is all up to you and what you plan on doing with your system.
If this HU is still on the market then it may be a good option... should be heaps cheaper now and it's a good looking unit, with dot matrix organic EL display and a flip down detachable face.
http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront...&CatId=2,24,32
The 6750mp is a 2005 model so that was quite expensive considering though each to there own
6750 --- 2005
6850 --- 2006
6950 --- 2007
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Like I said I got it a while ago! It had only just been released and was RRP at ~$850... I managed to get a good deal at JB's. At the time it wasn't "quite expensive". It's been through 3 cars already and has served me very well ever since I got it. Only reason I suggested it was because of how old it is, hence it should be heaps cheap now, while still being a decent unit. Also wanted to point out that you only really need 2 sets of pre-outs.. one for front stage and one for sub/s. Amping your rear speakers is pointless... but if you really wanted to do that then by all means get 3 sets of pre-outs. It all comes down to personal preferences.
I'd wait until the new models start coming into your local stores, then the old models will be discounted like crazy...
yeah i was hopeing to get some old stock, as long as its still good and does what i want. probably will be a while befor i get it allmight just get some splits to start off with i have a H/U already. then get a better H/U later, more suited to amps when i get some amps.
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good idea man then u can go with the 3 pre outs (not 2 thats pointless) u wanted n if they or a lil over ur budget u can save up 4 it
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Why say that's pointless? Do you really need to amp your rear speakers too? I think that's pointless.good idea man then u can go with the 3 pre outs (not 2 thats pointless) u wanted n if they or a lil over ur budget u can save up 4 it
In the average install you have;
*Head unit
*Front stage
*Rear fill
*Subwoofer/s
*Amp/s to power front stage and subwoofer/s
So you use one set of preouts (front channels) for the front stage, and one set of preouts (nonfading/sub channel) for the sub/s. Then the other set of preouts is not used, with the rear fill being powered by the HU.
So now explain to me why it is pointless to only have two sets of preouts, when only two is needed.
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coz u can get more power outer ur amps than wat u would running the speakers off the head unit (obviously) if ur gonna do that y bother with amps at all? or even puttin rear speakers in? plus he'll have alot more options 2 build if he eva wants 2 expand his system. thats how i see it neways
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A good system doesn't need rear speakers, so it would only need front and sub RCA's, 2 sets
yeah i might do that, my mate is going crazy(what i would call crazy 5k) and not amping his rear speakers i'll see what that sounds like if i can hear them and they bother me then i will amp the rears but if i cant notice them then i wont bother. now tho i will just get some splits and use my old h/u untill i get some money i want to spend on it.
so far i have been recommended:
focal polyglass
hertz
Pioneer TS-C1625
Rockford P162S
Cerwin Vega
will have to see how they all sound.
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Try the TS-C171PRS and T162S as well.
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Obviously you get more power out of an amp than you do from your head unit, but my point is that you don't need to amp your rear speakers. You sit up the front of the car while you drive, so you want your music to be heard mainly from your front stage, not your rear fill. Amping your rear speakers gives them too much power, resulting in a louder speaker which drags your staging backwards towards the rear of your car... this is not a good thing because music sounds better when it sounds like it is in front of you, not behind you.
Why do you think most people focus mainly on the speakers up front, and spend big bucks on a good set of splits while leaving the stock standard speakers on the parcel shelf? It's because rear fill is not necessary, but still good to have there for when you have passengers sitting in the back
Now if he can afford a better head unit with 3 sets of preouts, then by all means get it... but I thought I'd let him know that he doesn't absolutely need that many so he could possibly save a few dollars on the HU. May also save him a few dollars down the track when buying amps, only needing a 2 channel amp for his splits + monoblock for sub, or even cheaper, a 4 channel amp using the two rear channels bridged to power the sub. Otherwise, if he was to amp all speakers he would need a 4 channel + monoblock, or a 5 channel amp, both options being more expensive... and that money can be better spent elsewhere to make the system better overall.
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yer fair enough point taken tho u can control the amount of sound coming through ur rears and fronts so ur stage doesnt get dragged back like u say if it is over powering plus it gives u the option of controling everything straight from the HU including sub i guess its just personal prefrence n how much ur budget is, but like i said b4 ur HU is the heart of ur system and is were u should b spending most of ur budget as u want it 2 do as much as it can and if u can get a HU that does everything y not may save u money in the long run if upgrading, that was my point mainly but i know wat ur sayin
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Point also taken.
Just though it was good advice for him if he was looking to save a few dollars, or maybe give him that option to spend more money on another area of his system. If he wants to spend that extra money on the better HU, plus extra amps+cabling for rear speakers then sure, do it.
Anyway no harm done... now he knows the pro's and con's, he can make a better informed decision on what he buys.
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