VS Acclaim Rear 6X9's

[Acclaimman]

I have just bought some Sony Explod 6X9's I want to install myself in the rear parcel shelf. Ive searched the posts and am not clear on firstly if it is legal, and secondly how to do it. I'd like to install them where the stock ones are now leaving the grill in place if its possible.

Be really appreciated if someone could give me really basic instructions on installing the speakers in the rear and the side doors if its possible. Thanks in advance

[calais_cruzin]

I dont think u can put the 6x9's in where the original onse are as the hole is for 6inch.

To put them in u will need to put spacers in under the speaker and have them exposed.

[JBDrifter]

Why would you buy the speakers without knowing if/how you are able to mount them? Seems a little silly to me... but anyway, without doing any mods to your parcel shelf you will only be able to mount them using spacers. They will be exposed and you will lose the stock look.
Maybe you could return the 6x9's and replace them with a decent set of splits to upgrade your front stage and possibly add an amp. Then when your budget allows, add a sub+amp in the boot and you wont need to worry about your rear speakers... the sub will take care of the bass that your 6x9's would otherwise be used for.

[Luke0011]

you can mount 6 x 9's in your parchel shelf. it is possible to mount the 6 x 9's under shelf using factory grill but would not recomend as only about half the speaker will fire out of the grill. being xplods they will have a nice bright flashy grill cover. you can get some black metal mesh grills that will look more factory to place over the factory grill area. you don't need spacers .the orginal 6 inch metal plate that sits under shelf is spot welded in 4 spots. if you do not have a specialised right angle drive with a spot weld drill bit then a hammer and large flat blade screw driver will help you. you hammer the front spot welds with the screw driver then spring the plate up and down until the back spot welds come free. you then need to cut and 18 mm mdf panel as long as the plate and just a bit wider than the 6 x 9 hole you will cut into panel. but don't cut 6 x 9 hole just yet. first remove parchel shelf, you will need a 13mm socket or spanner ,a clip remover (or screwdriver) and a 19mm socket or spanner. pop out factory grill and place 6 x 9 template so it covers the hole and comes down towords front of car. mark and cut hole. Then place your mdf panel onto shelf where speakers are going to go. You will need a good cordless drill and a rightangle skewdriver which you can get at total tools for about 70 bucks. screw a 2 inch woodscrew through mdf panel and steel of car twice for each panel. replace parcel shelf and mark 6 x 9 hole on mdf. remove shelf and panel. cut your hole into panel . you will also have to cut out of the mdf panel a slight check to allow the indent on shelf to clear mdf panel and seat in properly. it may seem daunting but once you start doing it, it becomes easier to understand. then mount the 6 x 9's in your done. THis is the best way to mount 6 x 9's in a vs as the speaker is mounted solid and gives and awsome bass response. it should take you about 2 - 3 hours if you have not done it before.

[Acclaimman]

Thanks for all the really good advise Ill see how I go! If worse comes to worse ill shell out the $90 and get them installed but Ill give it ago myself

[garfa]

removing any piece of metal spot welded to the shelf will make your car unroadworthy.
use spacer or get new speakers, might not like it but its the only proper way to do it.

[Luke0011]

removing a non-structural steel plate that is designed for a speaker mount in a vs commodore does not make it unroadworthy, it is perfectly legal and i have had vic roads and a engineer confirm it.

[garfa]

well luke thats great but how come so many people have been defected? would most people be bothered to get an eng cert for such a mod when its all just for a second rate speaker?
could we all please see the imformation from vic roads to confirm that the speaker mount is in no way structural and therefore is ok to remove?

[Luke0011]

i've been fitting 6 x 9's into those cars for 7 years and have not seen one person get defected for adding those speakers in. unless you cut the metal. You get defected for 3 items that are deemed unroadworthy. an unroadworthy item must make the car unsafe in some way. the metal plate can be bent with ones own hand. it is spot welded only because it is cheaper than to screw it into place. the 18 mm mdf piece of wood that you screw under the shelf is a lot stronger than that piece of metal. i am only trying to help people on this website. With all respect garfa i understand where you are coming from but if you are doing something illegal in your car, you will get defected. Even if what the police say is incorrect. they are under no obligation to advise you on the finer points of law. they are the law. and what exactly is a second rate speaker. I have put heaps of 6 x 9's into many cars and one of the best cars to do it in is a vn, vp, vr, vs, vq.

[garfa]

sorry yes to clarify, 3 unroadworthy items equals a canary/defect notice.
a fair few of the TMU coppers joke that they can defect a car thats just rolled from a showroom! if they cant get you on one thing they will on another.
i know the speakers mount in flimsy and does nothing really but a copper a lot of times think a peice of metal (spot welded will just make his point stronger; it was not ment to be removed) has been removed and hence the cars body has been modified.
really, i think a 6x9 is just an inferior speaker and its not worth the risk of using without an eng cert, and its not worth geting an eng cert for a 6x9!

[Luke0011]

You do not need and eng cert to put 6 x 9's in, It is perectly legal to install. They are not an inferior speaker. Your intitled to your opinion, with some cars where you cannot put a sub in a 6 X 9 gives great sound.

[garfa]

luke, i said an eng cert to make the car "roadworthy". as to if removing the speaker mount is unroadworthy, we disagree.
an oval speaker will colour the sound, distorting it from its original form. hence a 6x9 is an inferior design.

[wrx884]

Those metal plates r meant 2 b removed if ur puttin speakers in the rear parcel shelf they r there mainly on lower class model cars where they wouldnt have rear speakers or they would b in the rear doors instead but have the option in upper class models 2 have them there its illegal if u start cuttin into the metal frame those plates r not part of the frame and dont make the parcel shelf weaker at all so no copper can give ya a yellow defect 4 it, if they do it will just get looked over n thrown out

[Luke0011]

Colour the sound, distorting it from its original form. What does colour the sound mean. and distorting from its original form. This is your opinion, you obviously don't have 6 x 9's in your car and neither do I. But they definitely do not distrort the sound. Maybe you have had a bad experience with these speakers. How can you say it distorts from its original form when you haven't heard the original form that takes place in the recording studio.

[garfa]

i have had 6x9's.
i had them and yes they were ok. i dont care if people get them at all, their choice.
its not my opinion, an oval speaker's cone will flex more than a round speaker. this can also be looked at as a vibration of the cone. now this vibration will move air and hence PRODUCE sound. this sound will not have been in the original recording of the music, and it is called distorsion. i dont need to have tested it myself or compaired it to the original, its simple acoustic theory.
now haw about you stop attacking me and discuss this topic like an adult. please add, just dont take you anger out on me.

[Luke0011]

I am not attacking you at all. In a car the sound quality is naturally reduced because of road noise. 6 x 9 speakers do not distort by operating within there power requirments. and they certainly do not flex . Flex is caused by an object that bends in some way. Speakers do not flex, they vibrate. That is what i am adding

[Tasmaniak]

I am not attacking you at all. In a car the sound quality is naturally reduced because of road noise. 6 x 9 speakers do not distort by operating within there power requirments. and they certainly do not flex . Flex is caused by an object that bends in some way. Speakers do not flex, they vibrate. That is what i am adding

The widest edge on a 6x9 does have a tendency to flex at the higher frequencies giving a distorted perceived sound. Do not mistsake my use of the term distorted as distortion. It's a natural given as it cannot be as strictly controlled as shortest of the speaker.

[ragrim]

back to the main topic of this post...

acclaimman - i had 6x9's from my previous car and had to get spacers for them and had them sitting on my parcel shelf. i just bought a VS last week and wanted to go for a clean stock look and was hoping to install them properly this time but after pulling out the parcel shelf realised they will not fit without some modifications.

what i done was removed the original speakers and the grill and cut my spacers down a bit lower ( they were like 4 inches high at the back) so now my 6x9's are mounted into the spacers which i screwed into my parcel shelf and the ass of the speaker now sits inside the parcel shelf and actually doesnt look to bad (assuming you got nice looking speakers)

id sugest if you want a clean stock look without modifying anything just get some 6"s to screw straight in there, if you allready have 6x9's you can get a pair of spacers for about $20 from places like auto barn and super cheap auto. they dont look too bad and they do the job fine.

[garfa]

yeah all i am saying is that an oval cone speaker is inferior, because it is less rigid than a round cone speaker.

[Ghost79]

will 6.5 fit easy?

[garfa]

mate i love the plan for the yet to be bought car plus audio equipment!
yes they will.

[Ghost79]

its okay i have a vs now lol

[[JUDGE]]

how about if u made a custom parcel shelf, say a thicker one from MDF?

[Patrio7]

how about if u made a custom parcel shelf, say a thicker one from MDF?

uneconomical, you would have to factor in the clearance for the center seatbelt and its hole, but too much effort.

[[JUDGE]]

uneconomical, you would have to factor in the clearance for the center seatbelt and its hole, but too much effort.

na when i get a VS i reckon ill give it a go , id hate having speaker spacers ugliest things ever. i love the 6x9's flat on the parcel shelf looks smick