boxing in your boot.

[vrberlina93]

so i have some ideas for my boots, went out and brought 2 12" kickers subs and an amp of course, now my idea.

I want the 2 subs to sit nice and snug in the back of my seats, then box them in and the sides to hide my spare wheel etc and have the amp on the back of where the subs sit.

sounds confusing, but what i wanna know is if MDF is the best material to use for this job, and if anyone has done this before if they can give me a guideline to what needs to be done.

thanks.

edit found a pic of someones ride here
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[lieos]

yes use some mdf to build the enclosure and to 'pretty it up' put some carpet around it. also look into the specs of the subs and when building the box build it to specs to make it sound good too.

[JUDDO13]

yeh just use some cardboard to make the design u want so u know ecactly wat u want it to look like then use some mdf and make it im in the process of boxing up my boot now

[-UNKNOWN-]

Id use 16-18mm MDF... And a layer of fibreglass to make a screw-less enclosure.

[wrx884]

as every1 has said yer MDF is ur best material 4 the job unless u got $$$ fibre glassin would b better again but its not cheap and takes a bit of time lol do as justinguttormsen said make a template of wat u wanna do using cardboard or wat i use is 3mm MDF (packing sheets is ideal and u'll prolly get it 4 nothing) its a bit more sturdier, most of it is gonna b trail and error 2 get the shape of ur boot ect... then wen ur happy transfer it onto the MDF board and cut it out with a jig saw, router shape edges, sand and shape till ur happy

[Miss-E]

We just did mine, I pasted a pic in the audio pic section. its only temporary until we recover it in vinyal. The only advice i can give you cause most of it ive forgotten is that mdf is the best for sound, if you want fiberglass its better to put mdf then put fiberglass over that. And make sure you get your boxes the right size for the subs. Mine needed huge boxes.

[garfa]

just incase your interested vrberlina93 we all say mdf because its density in far more constant than natural timber. this results in better sound.
you can get mdf pre-cut and this will make mitres on edges easy and it will also cut dont on your sealent costs.
just remember to use a mask it you cut it. the glue in mdf is toxic.

[Tasmaniak]

+1 on the mask.

I never used one for years, now I'm having health issues because of it.

MDF is by far the better product. Ideally you would make an enclosure out of cement but that ain't gonna happen, so MDf is just perfect for what we want to achieve here! Someone suggested 16-18mm MDF. Well, 18 is the absolute minmum you would want. I always use 24mm MDF but that can be hard to come by and is expensive...but it is the better prodduct for a car enviroment.

[azkwazere]

What if you used say 2 16mm MDF with fibro cement sheeting in between? all glued properly... would that make it sound good?

aZk.

[Tasmaniak]

to be honest, I don't know. never tried or heard of it being done. Why don't you build and let me know how it goes eh? but simply put, gluing two panels together is never effective.

[wrx884]

2 sheets of 16mm MDF would b more expensive than buyin 24mm in the end ur best off just using that

edit: panels i should have said not sheets so u dont get confused lol

[azkwazere]

2 sheets of 16mm MDF would b more expensive than buyin 24mm in the end ur best off just using that

edit: panels i should have said not sheets so u dont get confused lol

i was just curious to see if the fibro cement sheeting's effects would outweigh the costs of the two 16mm sheets.

ie, would it produce a better SQ than a single 24.... hmmm, may have to test it!

aZk.

[wrx884]

well it would coz wat r 2 sheets of 16mm? 32mm right add how eva thick the cement fibro is 2 that thats way more than the 24mm so then there would b less resistance in the MDF so u would have 2 say it would but might b a bit of an over kill (but thicker is better) but also try it still tho see wat u come up with

[Tasmaniak]

I honestly don't know though...in the past I have ran out of 24mm and have made up a panel using two 12mm peices heavily glued together and it certainly was the weakest link in the box.

[azkwazere]

yes buts that a 24mm sheet vs. a 24mm sheet (unsolid)... i wana compair, 24mm with 32mm + Fibro. I reckon the weakness would be outweighed by the properties of cement sheet and dual 16mm board.

aZk.

[Tasmaniak]

also when I said concrete...I meant a poured enclosure..not slabs nailed together, doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested to see the results.

[wrx884]

haha i can imaine some1 makin a box outer cement now u wait n see but >.< just curious wen u said the 2 12mm mdf boards were the weakest link how did u know that they were? i mean only thing i can see is the 2 12's would actually have less resistance than a normal 24mm board coz it has that glue bond thats actually stronger than the board itself?

[Tasmaniak]

woops..........

[Tasmaniak]

it had a rattle.

[wrx884]

ahh k id say the sub broke the glue join or parts of it by the sound of that more glue boy more glue :P haha but with the amount of vibrations that go through the boards if the glue hasnt curerd properly b4 use a solid 24mm board would definatly b better in that case

[garfa]

here is also another point to consider, how much is you time worth?
stuffing around with glue and mdf ect... is hardly a quick affair. how do you expect to cut the cement sandwich, rip saw, circ saw will not do it. jizsaw with a special blade is a maybe but the edge will be quite nasty.
so pretty much it will be either 24 mm mdf with a heap of bracing of 32mm baced not quiet as much.