6" Splits Alpne Type R??

[colk]

Hi

I am looking at replacing my front speakers in my VZ commodore.
I have a spare Soundstream LIL Wonder 2.40 amp which have the following specs:

60 RMS x2 at 4ohm
120 RMS x2 at 2ohm
240 RMS x1 at 4 ohm bridged

I am looking at Alpine Type R splits which JB Hifi have quoted me $269 for a pair. These speakers can produce 110 Watt RMS

Has anyone used these before or are there anything else people would recommend? I have a budget of up to or around $300 for a set of splits.

Also would the amp be under powering these speakers too much??

Any Suggestions would be great.... Cheers

[calais_cruzin]

Alpine make a very good speaker, thats a ok price on those too.

You could also look at Focal, Hertz, Rainbow, for more quality speakers.

[garfa]

mate just listen to as many speakers as possible and get the ones YOU like best.
alpine are a dependible brand.

[spice weasel (BAM)]

I have alpine type r speakers and i have nothing bad to say about them at all.

have put up with my abuse very well and sound great in my opinion

[colk]

Thnks your help guys, I appreciate it allot.
Ill have a listen too a few high end brands like calais_cruzin suggested if not ill stick to the type R.
Thanks again.

[Tadgh]

Mate speakers don't produce power they "handle" it, your amp produces the power. You will be running 60wrms x 2 into 4 ohms with nearly any splits you buy. The Alpine type R's will be a little under powered with this amp but would still sound good. I was looking at upgrading my fronts the other day to the type R but i thought they sounded a little bright, the equivelant JL speaker had a better mid bass reproduction and just sounded more rounded, they also have a lower power rating which would better suit your amp. The jl's would be my choice especially if you aint running loud subs.

I have type R subs and as spice weasel said they do handle plenty of punishment!


Listen to plenty and see what you like, can't go wrong with either alpine or JL

[Luked]

And make sure you get your amps and impedance all sorted out, otherwise you could wreck some new speakers via DC Clipping. Ask some people with the know-how to make sure you avoid under powering your speakers; (subs, splits etc)

[garfa]

10 watts here or there.
dont be a dick and set your gains properly and you will be fine.

[colk]

Thanks everyone

I did a google search on speaker clipping and apparently under powering a speaker actually can cause more damage than over powering ie. if a speaker is rated 60Watt RMS then run them on a maybe 75Watt + RMS amp (same for subs).

I am currently running a soundstream 350Watt RMS 12" sub with the soundstream LIL Wonder 2.40 amp at 4ohms 240RMS, I realise this has been under powering the sub and this is why I am upgrading to a higher power mono block Amp (Leaving the soundstream 2.40 spare to power some splits).

I just didn’t realise it was that important, I thought the speaker would not be running to its full potential and distorting before it should, not damaging the speaker I guess it is very important.

Apparently most speakers are blown from clipping (due to under powering).

I might have a look at the JL Audio too as I think they are around 60Watt RMS from memory??

Thanks again for your advice

[garfa]

but also you need to realise that clipping from the amp is easy to hear usually.
as long as you dont generally break your possesions you will not break the speakers.
it all comes down to the person driving the system.

[colk]

Good point garfa, I will keep that in mind.
Its mainly those idiots that drive around with their speakers cranked (Gain up all the way) distorting like s**t that would cause clipping.

I have an Amp tuner CD that I could use to find the clipping point from the amp then drop the gain a few notches, is this the best way? Sorry if I am asking basic questions but most of the audio shops hear in Adelaide just want to sell you what ever they have at the time and don’t tend to know a whole lot about good audio configuration.
They are just good at selling you something and telling you they know it all but really have no idea… lol

I am amazed by some of the knowledge of some people on this forum and how helpful they can be! Thanks everyone!

While I’m at it can anyone recommend a mono block Amp to power Soundstream 350Watt RMS Sub, up to or around $400?

[colk]

What do you guys think of the jay Car Response Amp CAT. NO. AA0426??
I have heard Jay Car amps are pretty good for the price, only RRP $299.

Specifications:
Power / channel @ 4ohm 14.4V: 130WRMS x 4
Power / channel @ 2ohm 14.4V: 190WRMS x 4
Power / bridged @ 4ohm 14.4V: 380WRMS x 2
Signal/Noise ratio: >90dB
Input sensitivity: 200mV to 5V
Low pass filter: 50 - 500Hz @ 12dB/octave
High pass filter: 50 - 500Hz @ 12dB/octave
Pass thru RCA: Yes
Dimensions: 400(L) x 258(W) x 50mm(D)


Maybe this one below running Bridged at 4ohm impedance to power my sub?? or would a mono block still be better??

Precision Response Car Amp 2x150WRMS CAT. NO. AA0424

Specifications:
Power / channel @ 4ohm 14.4V: 150WRMS x 2
Power / channel @ 2ohm 14.4V: 255WRMS x 2
Power / bridged @ 4ohm 14.4V: 500WRMS x 1
Signal/Noise ratio: >90dB
Input sensitivity: 200mV to 5V
Low pass filter: 50 - 500Hz @ 12dB/octave
High pass filter: 50 - 500Hz @ 12dB/octave
Bass boost: 0 -18dB @ 50Hz
Pass thru RCA: Yes
Remote level controller: Yes
Dimensions: 340(L) x 258(W) x 50mm(D)

[garfa]

i personally like to use a few pieces of music i know well. just remember that your selection needs to have a bit of everything, low/mid/high frequences and also sustained and shorter notes.
what model is the sub?

[colk]

The sub is a Soundstream Picasso (PCW-12) it has duel 4ohm voice core, I'm guessing since its wired in Parallel this would put a 2ohm load on the Amp, correct?? If I wire it in series it would put an 8ohm load on the Amp?? Does this mean that I should look for a 2ohm stable mono block to get the most out of it? I'm not 100% sure how it all works with the Ohm stuff but I think I kinda understand it?