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Standard Tight Bass
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Optimal Sound Quality - Flat Response
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SPL Very Boomie - Loud
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08-09-2008, 11:17 PM
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Sub Box Enclosure
Hi guys,
Just received my items from ebay
I've got the Hifonic Olympus 2412 (2400rms, 12") sub and need a box to put it in. Reading the manual, it says it is not recommended for closed box designs but also has different types of boxes.
Standard Tight Base - 2/56.63 (cubic feet/liters)
Optimal Sound Quality-Flat Response - 2.5/70.79 (cubic feet/liters)
SPL Very Boomie-Loud - 2.75/77.87 (cubic feet/liters)
Which would I go for?
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Last edited by Deutscher; 10-09-2008 at 04:02 PM.
Reason: My bad, was reading the 15" version not the 12"
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08-09-2008, 11:22 PM
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i dont know what u would want mate but what do u want from ur sub maximum base i nice bit of doof or what u gotta say that so the guys can help u out a bit more
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09-09-2008, 05:38 AM
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Have you considered a boc that extends your bass responses? For everyday purposes I rarely recommend an SPL enclosure. You will hate it except for when you that particular note
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09-09-2008, 06:44 AM
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umm, flat response would kinda be the logical choice.
do you actually have the t/s specs for the sub?
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09-09-2008, 06:54 AM
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^^^not always. The woofer in question here is a highpowered monster designed for SPL set-ups. Considering it's not going to be used in an SPL set-up more of a daily driver it's never going to have SQ abilities.
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09-09-2008, 06:55 AM
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^^^not always. The woofer in question here is a highpowered monster designed for SPL set-ups. Considering it's not going to be used in an SPL set-up more of a daily driver it's never going to have SQ abilities.
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yes, but if you're using the sub to play MUSIC, you're going to want a box that gives the flattest possible frequency response so it can play music as accuratly as possible.
edit: I never said anything whatsoever about sound quality, I said flat frequency response.
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09-09-2008, 09:33 AM
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Flat Response = Sound Quality.
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09-09-2008, 09:56 AM
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I'm not too sure which I want. It will be a every day driver. I know you guys don't know what I want, I was wondering what you guys would do. A do like volume, but I don't want to lose quality.
How much difference (in db) would a SPL box and flat response be? is it going to be noticable?
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09-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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I voted for MY preference - that's all!
(flat response)
Seriously Mate, it depends on what YOU want - but as Ray pointed out, when set up for SPL it only works at peak efficiency at a very narrow feequency band - for general listening it's dreadful.
Also, look at the size of the SPL box! by the time you allow for back-volume, port volume, and bracing, you're well over 100 litres!  It'll weigh a ton, and take up half your boot! Although, even the box volume for the flat response is large - it would seem this driver has relatively tight mechanical suspension, not relying on the compression within the enclosure for cone support...
Hmmm, I'm starting to ramble....
Cheerz, later!
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09-09-2008, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phreddy
I voted for MY preference - that's all!
(flat response)
Seriously Mate, it depends on what YOU want - but as Ray pointed out, when set up for SPL it only works at peak efficiency at a very narrow feequency band - for general listening it's dreadful.
Also, look at the size of the SPL box! by the time you allow for back-volume, port volume, and bracing, you're well over 100 litres!  It'll weigh a ton, and take up half your boot! Although, even the box volume for the flat response is large - it would seem this driver has relatively tight mechanical suspension, not relying on the compression within the enclosure for cone support...
Hmmm, I'm starting to ramble....
Cheerz, later!
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I'm thinking of going with flat response or tight bass. From what I hear, SPL is not the way to go. About the boot space.... I barely have any left haha, I've got a gas tank in the boot, don't use my boot tho so its only for my amps and sub. Weighing a tonne.... it already does, for some reason this sub is hell heavy lol, not like my Type R I previously had.
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09-09-2008, 12:56 PM
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Heh - sounds like an industrial duty unit!
Good luck with the project.
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09-09-2008, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
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Heh - sounds like an industrial duty unit!
Good luck with the project. 
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The Kicker 0gauge wiring kit weighs 6Kg
The Hifonic Brutus amp weighs 7Kg
The Hifonic Olympus sub weighs 17.5Kg (without box)
Too me that is heaps heavy!
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As far as difference in dbs go i would imagine something like 5-8db...depending on how well the box is tuned if its a SPL box.
Which would make a difference to how loud it goes. As stated above, it'll only sound good with a handful of songs.
Id say if your not after a system that you wanna compete (at SPL comps) with and are concerned about box volume / size, go with the sealed version. It wont be as loud as a ported box but will sound good with all music and be relatively small / light.
A sealed box, provided its the correct volume, will also give you a flat frequency response and therefore decent sound quality.
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09-09-2008, 05:18 PM
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