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OEM steering wheel remote wired interface capability
If a unit boasts "OEM steering wheel remote wired interface capability", does that mean it will work directly off the vx commodore steering wheel controls? , without any costly adaptors etc?
I was enquiring about purchasing a current clarion unit that has this feature. One installer claims they'll be able to get it all working for the standared installation cost, another claims they'll need to put in the costly CAT thingo.
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yes that is true, Clarion has just started doing it, I know eclipse do it also. I have used it a few times on vehicles with great success. There is a horrible programming set-up procedure but once in, the system works well. Basically there is two wires required from the steering wheel. You earth one out (usually) and the other one gets connected to the new unit and then you basically start pressing buttons to go through the learning process.
If a company says they can do it for standard install costs, don't be surprised if the price does jump once it's completed, if a company says you still need a cat unit...walk away.
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
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Thanks for that.
Ok, so if I "sign up" for the unit and agreed installation cost, then its up to them to get it working. Just didnt want to be in the position where they get it installed then decide that it cant really be remote wired and then have to negotiate something else, price etc. There's not much to choose between the units (at the lower end of the market) and bypassing the cost of the steering remote costs is a big factor for purchase.
I had this set up with my old VR Calais. Its not as simple as unplugging the steering controls and plugging it into a new head unit, you need to use a device called a CAT that converts the signal to replicate the same controls as an aftermarket remote. This is the same whether you use a plug straight to the headunit or an infrared control. I'd talk to a person at a decent car audio center first and they should have plenty of experience getting these steering wheel controls to work. Mine worked like a dream.
Got Evo?
it will need an adaptor. It wont be plug and play.
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Guys...headunits have come a LONG way. If you purchase the right unit then you won't need a CAT unit....unless its a Mercedes Benz or a Dodge, Chrysler or Jeep product which sends information to the radio via CANbus system. Most GM Products are still using a 12V reference voltage with built in resistors inside each particular button to change the voltage and send that voltage back to the radio....this is how the new Clarion and Eclipse units view the signal. Once it "learns"that voltage you then tell the unit what it is supposed to do when it recieves the signal. Bypassing the need to use a interface modules.
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
I had a brand new Alpine unit with the steering wheel input and it still required the CAT regardless.
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it had a spot for the remote to plug in right? This is NOT a plug...it's an extra wire or two (dependant upon brand) that needs to be soldered onto the factory wire.
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
I didn't do the install so I couldn't tell you. I think it has a 3.5mm jack on the back for steering wheel controls. I do remember reading that to get it to work, you had to remove the infrared emitter from the CAT and solder on a 3.5mm plug instead.
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so these new units 12voltking work on every unit except can bus?
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yes Luke, for the most they part they will. Any vehicle that sends a data signal to the unit will still require a module. Anything that is simply a voltage of some form will not.
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
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are getting the unit(clarion) installed this week, and told them I wont be paying unless the steering wheel controls work......will let you know how it goes.
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Bad news. On arriving to get the job done, they inform me the clarion wont work without an interface. I negotiate the same unit at a much cheaper price and get it fitted anyway. But alas, i think its a mistake. The blue and red display just looks wrong against the comms green lighting and the unit is way to bright for night driving. It has a dimmer function, but that only changes it by a poofteenth, will need to put smoked glass on it or something.
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they are useless then....it will work. I used one last week! LOL Which Clarion unit was it?
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
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Clarion dxz386usb
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oh...the 386? nah mate, won't happen... the 586 and 786 is where its at.
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
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Just spoke to the Clarion rep and he said there not bringing out those units in australia that have steering wheel control interface built in. You still need the cat-09 or superseeded cat-10 to utilise the steering wheel controls. And those clarion units only work on european vehicles.
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more concerned with the dam brightness of the display. I cant drive the car at night with a dam spotlight on inside the car! and turning it off still has all the dam lights blazing on it, disconnecting the light wire makes it worse!.
This stuff is clearly unsuitable for driving cars at night, and there's no way one can test the units out for this in the shop, they dont even connect the headlight sensors.
The store's excuse.....they are all like that!. Well the fact eurovox wasnt! I was supposedly upgrading! Why wasnt I told they were unsuitable for night use, Ill be seeking a refund: for goods unsuitable for use for which they were sold, it could take a while!
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are you sure it's actually dimming at all?
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
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yes, but the difference is marginal
I had the same problem with my clarion head unit, it was a bloody nightmare driving at night. ended up having to hang something infront of it to block the light, should have taken it back but sold the car so didn't bother
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I am now working on the same thing..
The head unit is Clarion DXZ389RUSB and it has the OEM steering wheel controls input jack. Are you sure that the signal that the unit expects over this jack is resistence-based and not digital? I cannot find this info anywhere, I've been looking for days.
If anyone can tell me that this is true, I will be very grateful, thanks.
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Hi,
I'm also looking to install JVC head unit into 1997 VS, have standard eurovox unit and eurovox stacker.....want to scratch the stacker and just have jvc unit with my steering wheel controls. went to car audio place and they said $400 bucks to install!!!!
I have installed heaps of head units before by myself, but not with this cat10 module. Is there a DIY cheaper way to connect steer buttons to head unit with just wiring or do i need to fork out for cat10? Does anyone know if '97 VS is compatible with CAT10??
I have searched and searched for info on this topic too, surely SOMEONE would have realized this is a common problem and posted some info/diagrams/specs....? not even the companies that make the products have info!
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