Front Splits Installation Help!
Hey guys, Couldn't find a forum answering this one...
Installing my Pioneer splits to the front of my VS but i dont want to connect them to an amp (I've only got one already connected to sub). There's this Passive Crossover Network thing that came with the splits and im not sure where, how, or what im supposed to do with them. My logic is that it connects the tweeter and the woofer with the amp - as the diagram shows BUT i dont have an amp ----- can i just connect to my H/U in lieu of amp???
Donati..Whoa Green
The experts on this forums can give you a better answer but basically what the crossover does is split the frequencies so that the tweeters play the very high frequencies and the 6.5" or whatever plays the mid level frequencies.
To connect up the crossover you must use the signal from the H/U and put it on the line in side and then the other side will have tweeter + - and speaker + -, thats pretty self-explanitory. The crossover can be placed anywhere you can as long as it isn't exposed to the elements.
The crossover does not replace an amp though as it only splits the frequencys, it still only works with the power put into it. Really if your going to have splits you should get an amp.
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Your kind of all over the place there mate but you can run splits from the head unit. although any speaker sounds better amplified.
thanx for ur help guys, swapped the wires round with the new ones and just jammed the crossover in with everything else behind the side ducts. all good sounds sweet. now i just gotta do the other side :P
Donati..Whoa Green
Originally Posted by ravenator88
LOL takes a while doesn't it mate? Took me damn near 3.5 hours to install my splits, and I already had the signal wires laid! Still, nothing compares to the feeling when everything works fine and you know that you did it yourself.
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Yeah mate, especially when u gotta cut into the sides of the speaker and rip out the stock speaker box in the door cause it doesnt fit. the other door shouldnt nearly take as long!!! i hope
Donati..Whoa Green
Actually one of the really hard part I found was trying to run the woofer speaker cable from the crossover through to the door panel. Getting it to run down that stretchy rubber thing between the chassis and the door was an absolute pain in the arse. Till about an hour later I found it was easy to remove, thread wire, and reinstall.
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-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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hey, to install youinch splits on your vs did you have to cut out anything to make them fit or did they fit straight in? also, where did you mount the tweeter?
Thanks mate.
I cheated with mine, and used the wires from the stock speakers.Actually one of the really hard part I found was trying to run the woofer speaker cable from the crossover through to the door panel. Getting it to run down that stretchy rubber thing between the chassis and the door was an absolute pain in the arse. Till about an hour later I found it was easy to remove, thread wire, and reinstall
When I did mine I put it in the stock tweeter location. It's up the top underneath the windscreen. 2 or 3 screws per side, pop out the demister vent thing, and in the corner there is the stock tweeter. Unscrew it, replace it, and I just used the original wiring to avoid pulling more of the dash apart.
Yeah i put the tweeters in the stock location same as captain kermit. i ripped the tweeter out completely and used the new wires for that... used the existing wires to pull through the new ones... little sneaky trick i picked up. just tape the wire u want to the one your replacing and pull, carefully otherwise you'll lose it lol... i just used the stock speaker wires.
acarmody are u talking about the grommet? or the kick panel? i cant stand playing around with older cars, so many things can break! especially all those stupid plugs throughout the car... i would have been much happier with screws =P
Donati..Whoa Green
I meant that flexible rubber thing that has all the wires running through it from the chassis to the door frame. I guess it keeps the wires insulated from he elements when the door is open.
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It's mostly to stop the metal of the doors rubbing through the insulation which would make it short against the car.
It could be called a grommet I guess, but it's a special tubie one
Donati..Whoa Green
I could imagine walking into holden spare parts and asking for a "special tubie grommet thingie that is used to stop the metal of the doors rubbing through the insulation". The blank stare would make it all worthwhile.
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In all honesty, using the stock speaker wiring in between the kick panel and the speaker mount is fine. I mount the tweeters in the stock locations in the corners of the dash under the demister panels (stealth), on the kick panels (good for SQ) or on the A pillars (good for maximum treble) depending on the customers requirements.
A good spot to mount the crossovers is in the vacant space where the a/c vents join in between the dash and the doors. Each panel unscrews and you can also access the stock speaker wiring there.
All genuine 6" woofers will fit into the stock speaker pods, most 6.5" woofers will require the pod to be cut out to fit the bigger basket, although the amount required isnt major. The plastic pods arent the best for midbass too, its preferable to make up new MDF / fibreglass pods for optimum midbass ouput.
150db in a commodore =
Donati..Whoa Green
Yeah I know the stock wire is fine but I had just bought a sweet set of Polk MOMOs and by the gods I was not about to chop wires.
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-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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could someone tell me how to put the tweaters in the stock spot on the dash again please?
Thanks.
This is exactly what happened to me! I was too Lazy to thread my woofer wire through the rubber grommet as its a pain in the arse and i just pushed it down the side and eventually after a couple of months the wire rubbed through, shorted out and has either damaged my amp of Xovers as my woofers in my doors are hardly working even though my tweeters are loud! Let this be a lesson to anyone else fitting splits! Im going to check my audio tommorow!It's mostly to stop the metal of the doors rubbing through the insulation which would make it short against the car.
It could be called a grommet I guess, but it's a special tubie one
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So tempted, but then again they would probably walk out back grab some random part and try and tell me that is what I want and it will cost $1000.
I don't know about the VS but in my VX you just unscrew the side piece, and the plastic strip that runs along the bottom of the windscreen just lifts up of the clips.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
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-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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all you have to do is undo the two screws holding in the dimister cover, then u can access the tweeter speaker. undo the two screws holding the plate to the frame and then u can undo the single screw underneath holding the speaker to the plate.
to get to the wiring take out the glove box or fuse box (depending on the side) and the side plate when the door is opened - note this is only possible when the glove box or fuse box is taken off (so you can access a screw).
work out which wires are yours (should be grey or green depending on side) then switch them out or use existing - whatevers your preference. cheers
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