VS Audio system

[HamaTime™]

Sup guys, I just bought a new car, a 97 VS series 2 S pack, though i have bought it without the $6000 stereo system in it which comprised of a pioneer flip screen headunit, 2 15" Rockford Fosgate Subs, run through a Rockford Fosgate 1500 watt amp with 4 pioneer 6X9's...one in each door.

I bought it without the stereo which by the way was frigging sweet because i need to do an LPG conversion and its not very practical having a gas tank in the boot with a 2 15" sub box in front of it...

Anyway so i find myself in need of a headunit, an amp and a sub...

Here is what i was thinking of.

HEADUNIT

I was thinking of the Pioneer DEH - P6050UB which has rear ipod connection and full ipod interface through the unit...


MercadoLibre: DEH-P6050UB PIONEER NUEVA LINEA CD MP3 WMA AUXILIAR USB - s/. 849.00

seems like the best go...

However, since i have no electrical knowledge whatsoever...

I want to get a 12" subwoofer in a box to put in the boot, and I need an amp to run it...

So What sort of amp do I need, like power wise to run the sub and the 6X9's? I don't want to spend much and I think $100 for a sub is a good price...how much will the amp cost and what should I look for?

[holdenboy]

Few things mate, where are you planning on installing the 6x9s? by the sounds of the old system he had 6x9s in the front doors???

Anyways, to power a pair of 6x9s and a subwoofer you'll need a 4 channel amplifier. Something with around 80-120wrms per channel is ideal. What you do is run the 6x9s off the front 2 channels and bridge the rear channels to run the subwoofer. Make sure when you buy a subwoofer that its 4 ohm impedance.

I'd imagine a cheap amp would cost $150-$200, but its exactly that...cheap. A decent but not too expensive model would cost $350-$450, but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Another option would be to go second hand, you dont get warranty but you will get a better quality amp with more power most of the time.

[HamaTime™]

Yeah i was thinking of second hand for an amp...

the 6X9's are already in man, don't need to install them...Pioneer ones

what sort of amp, like brand/model, or sub brand/model should I go for...

Examples...please

[BeastVS]

^^^ How much you want to spend.

[HamaTime™]

Well Headunit will cost $300...

I'm thinking $100 for 12" sub (second hand)

and $100 for Amp

so around $500 i reckon

[Captain Kermit]

I hate to ruin your parade, but having a sub and 6x9's isn't adviseable. I'd sell the 6x9's and pick up some semi decent splits. The best splits on a tight budget are Jaycar 6.5" splits, which are only $130 new, but you can always go higher.

The ultimate budget install is a 4 channel amp with 2 splits running off the 2 front channels and a sub running off the rear channels bridged. Keep in mind that some amps can only be run in either 2 or 4 channel mode, not 3, so make sure you don't do what I did and pick up the wrong type. Of course, I just ended up buying a cheap monoblock to fill in the gap, so I don't regret it

Possible amps:
Pioneer 400w 4ch Bridgeable Amp - eBay Amplifiers, Audio, Video, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 27-Feb-09 16:43:44 AEDST)
Out of the three I've listed, this would be best.

Pioneer GM-6200F 4 Channel Amp - eBay Amplifiers, Audio, Video, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 02-Mar-09 23:07:12 AEDST)
This ones a maybe if you've got a lower powered sub.

Panasonic car AMP 1000watt 4 channel model cypa4003 - eBay Amplifiers, Audio, Video, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 06-Mar-09 19:15:42 AEDST)
Same for this one.



All 3 of these are second hand, and for sale right now. They can all be bridged to 2 or 3 channels, so I'd say they're perfect for your application. Try and snag the first one if you can because it will probably be the best of the 3, but the other 2 should do okay if you don't end up with a power hungry sub.

With your sub, try and pick up one locally with a box included. Making your own/buying a box may add a fair bit more to the price than you were expecting.



Here is an eBay search of all used subs within 50k's of 3109 (presuming that's your postcode judging by your location)

, Subwoofer Boxed, Subwoofer Only items at low prices on eBay.com.au

[HamaTime™]

^^^ cheers buddy you were a great help, ill look into the amps situation

I made a mistake, the car doesn't have 6X9's, this is what it has:

The vehicle has a Pioneer DEH-P6350 50Wx4 flip face CD player with remote worth $900 new.
JL Audio front 6" splits and 6" Rockford Fosgate rear speakers in original factory holes both worth $570 new.
2 Rockford Fosgate 15" HX2 Subwoofers in a box worth $1300 new.
Rockford Fosgate bd1500.1 amplifier 1500 Watts worth $2300 new which runs the two subwoofers.
Audio Mobile Acoustic 150WX4 amplifier which runs the six speakers in the car, worth $450 new

However, i don't have the subs, amp or headunit

[Captain Kermit]

JL Audio splits and rockford fosgate rears? Sweet, you're set for speakers. Don't worry about buying anything on that front.

I'd run the front splits from the front 2 channels of an amp and the rear speakers off the headunit. That way you've got the rear channels of the amp to run the sub, and if you decide you want to upgrade later on you can buy a monoblock for the sub and run the rears off the rear channels of the amp.

You got bloody lucky with this blokes choice of speakers, and the fact that he left them in there, must be crazy.

[HamaTime™]

yeah, well we decided on $5000 without the amp, subs and headunit, otherwise he wanted $6000

[HamaTime™]

CAR SYSTEM 12" SUB + AMP - eBay Subwoofers, Audio, Video, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 04-Mar-09 22:04:12 AEDST)

what about this gear?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2800-Watt-4-C...ayphotohosting

and this?

[Captain Kermit]

I'd stay away from both amps. The sub should proove to be fine, MTX is a reputable brand, but Boss Audio and Powervox are both a little sketchy. Try to stick with brands you've heard of before, and as a general rule, when buying brand new car audio gear off eBay/internet, try to go over the details with a fine tooth comb. Remember that 1000w =/= 1000wRMS. Make sure you ONLY look at RMS wattages, and completely ignore max/PMPO values as they are completely useless in regards to choosing a suitable amp.

Also, any amp that's $40 brand new probably isn't worth putting in your car.

[Trayner]

Why dont yah get a 4 channel amp for the speakers and a mono block for the sub,
4 channel ($200) , mono ($250) my as well get the most out of the system

[holdenboy]

Seriously mate youve got some really good speakers there...it would be a shame to waste them by powering them with a cheap amp.
If youre budget dosent allow for an amp/s and a subwoofer/box, why not just buy a good head-unit and a half decent amp to power the front speakers and subwoofer. You can just run the rears off the head-unit.

Spend your $500 this way:

$250-$300 on a head-unit
$200-$250 on a GOOD 4ch. amplifier.

Then when you get the extra cash buy a subwoofer and box.

To be honest thats your best bet, buying cheap crap off Ebay wont get you very far in the long run, and you'll end up spending more on upgrading components when they blow.