Hi Guys . I have noticed a couple of cars getting around town and the paint work looks awesome . They look like they are covered in water with the wet look . What polish does this ? and what is the best way to apply it ? Thanks .
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It all depends on the current condition of your paint, how damaged/faded it is.
But if it's only a bit faded (e.g not glossy), then you use a fine polish such as Meguiars Deep Crystal Polish, it's great.
If your paint is quite faded/rough, you use K@H Buff N Shine... the green stuff, then finish with Deep Crystal.
Thanks mate . The paint is ok other than a few chips and scratches . Will give the Meguires a go![]()
Cheers Mick .
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I use Mc Guyers
another maguires user here i use the 3 step system paint cleaner then polish then wax comes out really glossy if your paint is in good condition to start with.
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You might want to look here to see the correct steps to achieving a perfect shine.
Off-the-shelf products can only go so far...
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das6 and menzerna polish topped with either dodo juice supernatural wax or duragloss sealant ftw
Mequires Scratchex (when required) then Mequires Wet Look followed by Mequires NXT Tech Wax 2.0 and it'll come up awesome
It is alot of work but the end result speaks for its self
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Just remember the trick to a DEEP gloss is you can not polish your paint to much, I have done porsche's that are brand new and feed them a half a dozen coats of "deep gloss polish" used to be calls step 2, and the owners nearly fell over when they saw the result.
the trick is to put and even coat over the car and let it dry totally so you only wipe of what feels like dust, I let it dry for 15 - 30 mins if you can, you should need a day to do it properly,
Think of polish as moisturiser for the paint as it replaces all the oils and conditioners in the paint that the weathers sucks out of it, then put on the nxt gen wax and you will be blown away,
a word of advice, don't use a polisher/sander unless you actually know what your doing,![]()
Do you eally mean "polish" as in the stuff with a little cut in it? I would disagree totally.
Polish should only be used when you need to correct a problem/remove imperfections. 6 coats of polish in one go is asking for trouble.
Wax on the other hand is a coat over the top rather than cutting into your paint.
Follow the advice on Car Care Products link above, they know what they are on about and only sell high quality products.
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As Tim mentioned, Polish term is an abrasive product which will be used to correct paint.
I would recommend correcting the paint if you need to, and if not maybe just use a Sealant or Wax to protection and add some shine and wow factor to the car.
if you want to email us direct some pictures you're more than welcome to so we can find out whats best/cost effective for you and get the result you are after more importantly.
The "Wet Look" is usually found by synthetic products, the Duragloss Paint System can do your comm at least 10 times over and last 6-8 months at a time and offer you a very true wet look to the finish.
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This is a pic of my old car a few months before I sold it.
Black, 7 years and 200,000kms old - original paint - Using Dodo Juice soft wax from Car Care products
Tell them what you're after and your budget and they will send you in the right direction.
Also ask about their car wash products so you don't strip the wax/sealant you spent time putting on
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ill put Carnauba wax up against any top of the line polishes and waxes... turtle wax and polish have had it in there products for years its only lately that meguires are now using it or at least showing it on there labels Carnauba wax or as its called the "queen of waxes" is the only product ill use and my paint has been on my car for over 12 yrs and its still got that wet look. it has a Melting point: 82–86 °C (180–187 °F), which is among the highest of natural waxes....so that means its tough durable and gives a lasting deep finish....but with most things you have to look after your car dont expect miracles if you dont look after your car....
some basic tips
always wash your car with wash and wax DO NOT USE DISH WASHING LIQUID OR SOAP POWDER most of them have salt in it....dont leave polishing your car for once every year...polish it about every 3-4mths or when the seasons change...try not to let mud build up under your guards this causes rust...when washing your car tip a small amount( capful) of eucalyptus oil in the bucket this helps to stop rust in the old days they used to put in a cap full of petrol in the wash ... wash you car in a shaded area ... wax and polish it also in a shaded area but also not on a real hot day humidity can also stuff up a good wax job... use a soft cloth if polishing by hand to polish your car and use another soft cloth to buff and always turn over the cloth and shake it from time to time or use a new cloth...then go over it gently with another clean soft cloth....use feel as much as sight when polishing if you feel a resistance when buffing then you still have not buffed the polish properly your cloth should slide over the surface...try not to get polish on plastics it can stain if you do get it on quickly get a damp cloth and wipe it off...bird droppings /tar remove when you see them bird droppings have acids that will eat your paint. dont forget under your car now and then high pressure your inner guards and under body...when cleaning your engine bay with high pressure water be extremely careful what you are doing keep the car running do not spray on electricals such as distributors spark plugs /fuses/ alternators if your not confident or a novice especially on new cars to clean your engine with a high pressure hose...then go and buy some degreaser in a spray can get a bucket of warm water car wash and do it buy hand....keeping your car clean doesnt need to be a chore ive got 3 cars and there always clean its about an hour or two out of a day...i look at this way...you look after your car it will look after you.
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To add to your basic tips;
You should be using a pH-Neutral Car Wash Shampoo, as it will not remove your wax or sealant that has been applied to your car. A 'dish washing liquid' has chemicals that will almost degrease your car, just like a truck wash and hence why your dishes are always so clean and all oils and food removed so easily. A lot of 'off shelf' brands are not pH-Neutral so please read the label carefully to see prior to usage. I would only recommend using a squidge of dish washing liquid on a 'pre-detail' to remove any sealants/waxes of the car itself but not regularly at all. A Two-Bucket Wash Method is always best; 1 bucket clean water, 1 bucket with the car shampoo. Wash, Rinse, Wash Rinse.. you get the drift
"Polishing your car" should be something you do once a week, usually a machine polish is best as by hand you don't unfortunately have the consistency, the speed, or effort that a machine can do and also able to correct any imperfections like what a machine can do. A Dual Action Random Orbital Machine are very easy to use, can not burn or damage the paint and any amateur can use this to achieve an amazing result and best of all its yours to do it whenever you need, or charge your mates for theirs lol.
I wouldn't advise to use "oils" in your wash as they are not good for rubbers, plastics or seals on the car first of all as well as if any sealant or wax on the car they can remove and shorten the durability/longevity of what you have spent hours putting on.
Applying a Sealant or Wax to your Paint after the car has been "Polished" by hand or machine should be done with an Applicator not a Cloth due to the simple fact is that you are applying a sealer not a polisher to the paintwork as well as you do not want a cloth to absorb the product as the point is to apply the product on the car not suck it up whilst going over the car. Remove product off the paint once it has dried to a haze 10-30m later (dependent on product of course).
Engine Bay cleaning as mentioned is very delicate, but its a simple case of common sense at the end of the day. I would not highly recommend degreasers to much, as most engine cleaners (not off the 'shelf' style) cleaners are much gentler and often will not cause any chance of burning/etching paint like other 'degreasers' and some are non acidic as well and will not affect your rubbers/plastics in the engine bay and discolour them.
Waxes are usually Carnauba Based, and Premium Waxes tend to have few additives to benefit the cars colour or look overall and are always to be applied very thinly to the paint. A Premium Wax like Dodo Juice, Swissvax, Collinite, Zymol etc tend to protect/last for approx 2-4 months for a daily driver. A Semi Wax (semi synthetic, semi natural wax) tend to last a bit longer at 4-6 months. And possibly longer with weekend drive cars. A very 'deep' warm look will come from a wax and works very well with darker colours and especially metallics.
Synthetics from Polymer, Glass Silica, Nanotechnology will last anything from 6-7 Months+ up to ever 24+ Months on the car and offer a Sharp, Wet, Glossy look to the car. Lighter colour cars seem to sometimes benefit more from this.
Hope that clarifies things a bit more for everyone. Maybe information overload!
But if anyone is unsure or needs any technical help, or finding the right product please don't hesitate to email or call us at anytime!
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no info overload at all you went a bit more hi tech than me lol mine was just for the average joe who doesnt have a polisher and washes his car about every 10 months...I personally polish my cars usually every 2-3 weeks with a polisher when possible ... the cloth I still think there better than some applicators you get some are just sponges which in my opinion leaves micro scratches but each to there own... and i find that using a tiny capful of eucalyptus oil diluted into the wash also helps to remove tar easily its never hurt any of my cars the polish is still there...i read an article a long time ago that the queens chauffeur heats up a tin of carnuaba wax in a pot of water adds a few drops of eucalyptus oil in it then cools it down then polishes the rolls so i tried it...and it worked a treat but yep i agree dont go silly with oils..as for degreasers on your engine yep on your rubbers it can discolour it but for the guy who never opens his bonnet let alone cleans under it sometimes cleaners just wont cut it...my article as i said is for the guy who just wants to clean his car not like some of us and like me who goes out to the garage has a smoke looks at the car and goes damn you spot of dirt where did you come from...quick wheres the bucket and speaking of buckets or two bucket wash no offense but screw that ill argue with anyone that you use more water that way... and Ive proven it...fill up 9 ltrs of water in a bucket now fill up another 9 ltrs to wash with thats 18 ltrs and 9 ltrs to wash your car? cool if you want to use the crap on the bottom of the bucket and pick up all the sand sediment in your sponge and 9 ltrs to rinse your car? no way....yoou would be pushing to use less than 2 buckets to rinse.... i can use a normal hose on a fine spray mist and use just over 6 ltrs of water to rinse the whole car...its easy to work out get a bucket put your hose on fine mist see how long it takes to fill it then grab a beer zzzzz....then wash your car with a bucket use the fine mist to rinse then time it i can guarantee you will have rinsed your car off well before...when you filled the bucket...if your wash a bit then rinse a bit then just keep a tab on how long your rinse time is....yes its illegal in some states to wash your car with a hose *cough* but use a high pressure washer it will still use less water....sorry but 2 bucket wash really peeves me off its crap it uses way more water....ok my bitch is over lol
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Machone, I think you really need to do some further reading on the two bucket method of washing a car. At the moment it would appear that you have a complete misunderstanding of the method.
To further comments, i would say if you have water restrictions i can suggest a few ways to be able to get around this.
Purchase a small Ottobin/Garbage Bin or large water tank, leave it outside to collect water when it rains (and these days, rains enough to collect plenty).
Add a tap connector to this, and connect your Karcher/Gernie System to this and you will have water ready to go. As a high pressure water system consumes a lot less water than a running tap this is a great solution for those who are in areas that have still level 2/3+ water restrictions active still.
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I can't go past Meguiars products, reasonably priced & look the goods as well.
mate and i suggest you read up a bit more on what uses less water or do an exercise in washing your car on what uses less water... what im saying it uses more water the 2 bucket method...and so you know that i know what the 2 bucket watering method is its when you have a bucket of wash solution and a bucket of rinse water. You dip in the soapy water, wipe car. rinse mitt or sponge in a clean bucket with no soap. This allows the dirt to fall into the bucket. then you re soap your mitt or sponge with the first bucket
what it does is to allow the dirt to come off in the bucket with no solution. then when you go to the wash bucket the mitt or sponge is clean and you dont rub dirt back onto the paint you do use more water a better way of using less water is to use a wash bucket and to use a fine spray mist to take off the dirt off the mitt/sponge before putting it back into your wash bucket or use a high pressure hose.
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You are both right, however you can use a Grit Guard to solve any problems with dirt and being able to clean the mitt on the grit guard as well.
And using a sponge, will definitely scratch your car. Think of it in this case guys, you use a 'sponge' in the kitchen and you drag dirt from the counter/bench or dishes whilst washing. It works in the same principle where dirt particles stick to the surface of the sponge and move along the surface area (paint in this case) which will scratch and mar the paint and leave those lovely spider webbing wash marks.
We are happy to see how well you all take care of your rides though!
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I think you have misunderstood completely what was said.
Duragloss is not a wax. Its a polymer sealant. And sealants being synthetic such as Polymer, Crystal Acrylic Resin, Nanotechnology tend to last 6-24 months. Some also known as "Paint Protection". So what you believe may not last in fact does.
I mentioned "I would recommend correcting the paint if you need to, and if NOT maybe just use a Sealant or Wax to add protection and add some shine /wow factor to the car". So providing his car does not require any paint correction he is after a product that will make his car look good, protect it and use regularly if needed based on if you go a wax or sealant.
A wax will need to be re-applied every 2/3 months for a daily driver. Duragloss as mentioned states 12 months, now being a product from the US vs AUS climate i mentioned 6-8 months protection only as our climate is very different here and much harsher. currently on my own ride for 8 months.
You can go Nanolex which is true 100% nanotechnology which will provide 12 months min protection over the paintwork itself.
Few options available, it depends what suits you personally as everyone is differently inclined to care for their car.
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I use Car-Lack 68 on my car it's a nanotechnology wax and is soo easy to apply , best stuff I've used and I will not use anything else. I even put it on my windscreen and the water starts to bead off at 60km/h.
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