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    Hi,

    Just recently bought a VZ SV6 and the former owner made a big deal about being a car detailer so the car was always kept clean etc etc. Anyway after getting it I noticed swirl marks up the side where he obviously struggled with a rotary polisher (attached a couple of photo's). It's a white car so they're not too obvious, only in the right light (shade).

    What would you recommend for a novice to rectify these marks? Have spoken to a couple of detailers who didn't seem to really know what they were talking about so didn't trust them with my car.

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    I used Kitten 'Cream polishing kit' to remove so scratches, While doing that... I noticed 'swirl marks' also disappear. It doesnt seem to harsh on the paint..
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    voodoo is basically on the spot.

    Unfortunately the products listed above do have "Fillers" which will in fact hide your scratches for maybe 2-3 washes at the most. It will do no good for your point or ego really at the end of the day.

    Most swirls do require to be removed by machine and its easily achievable by yourself and all you have to do is follow with a good wax or synthetic sealant and maintain the paint with a pH neutral wash and if you are not already using a Microfibre Mitt/Lambswool Mitt and a Waffle Weave Drying Towel i would highly recommend it as you are a dark colour you can easily leave small marks in the paint which can end up being swirls, spiderwebbing etc from washing.

    Make sure you do not use a sponge or chamois though especially on a dark car as mentioned it won't be friendly to the paint!

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    Mine main thought was if it's going to cost $100+ to get it detailed I might as well buy the relevant products and try it myself. It'll cost a little more but using the orbital polisher doesn't seem too hard (from the video's I've seen), and I won't have to go to the trouble of finding someone I trust to do it.
    What is the difference between the different sized polishers and different brand polishing pads? I assume the 6" DAS6 just covers a bigger area than the 5" but is slightly more cumbersome in tight areas?

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    RO's are pointless for proper paint correction unless they incorporate a Forced Drive/Rotation mode. The Bosch gex150t is more expensive, but easily the best machine for under $400 and it will take on all the jobs a cheaper RO will fail on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ-VZ View Post
    Mine main thought was if it's going to cost $100+ to get it detailed I might as well buy the relevant products and try it myself. It'll cost a little more but using the orbital polisher doesn't seem too hard (from the video's I've seen), and I won't have to go to the trouble of finding someone I trust to do it.
    What is the difference between the different sized polishers and different brand polishing pads? I assume the 6" DAS6 just covers a bigger area than the 5" but is slightly more cumbersome in tight areas?

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    Smaller pads generally build up more heat, which is what you want to agitate the polish, but to much can cause you to burn the paint. Larger pads build up less heat, correct faster but are not aggressive to correct as the down pressure is spread over a greater area.

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    yes the das6 is a great little unit that can be used to do full correction, it just takes time and patiance. here is the last correction i did with a das6 Detail Paradise Forums-viewtopic-fusion cv8z monaro

    the cost of purchasing the das6 kit from mike at car care products is similar in price to getting a proper polish job done, probly even cheaper for the kit then getting someone who knows what they are doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrikkBen View Post
    Smaller pads generally build up more heat, which is what you want to agitate the polish, but to much can cause you to burn the paint. Larger pads build up less heat, correct faster but are not aggressive to correct as the down pressure is spread over a greater area.
    Agreed. Forced rotation is the way to go. Or get a rotary and learn how to use that.


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    I have the exact same problem with my ignition orange sv6, there are swirl marks through out the whole car but the worst of them would have to be on the bonnet and roof.
    have tried removing them by hand with swirl x but didn't have to much luck, I want to have a perfect swirl free finish which looks really glossy and shiny.
    I have had no experience using a machine polish the video makes it look fairly easy.
    so my questions are how hard are these to use? can i damage my paint? and what is the difference between the edge, festool and lake country pads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VKCOMMO View Post
    Meguiars Swirl-X

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    Quote Originally Posted by VKCOMMO View Post
    Meguiars Swirl-X

    It works wonders...
    So good that I was the one who told you....

    +1 for swirl x

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    As stated above, swirl x contains fillers. If that doesn't bother you then go right ahead. It will wash off. You need to do some proper polishing with the right technique and polish and also look at your washing technique. Swirls appear when contaminants get into your sponge of mit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJY92 View Post
    I have the exact same problem with my ignition orange sv6, there are swirl marks through out the whole car but the worst of them would have to be on the bonnet and roof.
    have tried removing them by hand with swirl x but didn't have to much luck, I want to have a perfect swirl free finish which looks really glossy and shiny.
    I have had no experience using a machine polish the video makes it look fairly easy.
    so my questions are how hard are these to use? can i damage my paint? and what is the difference between the edge, festool and lake country pads?
    Thanks
    These are incredibly easy to use. If you're in Sydney you are welcome to join us on the Detailing Clinic Days where its a hands on day to show everyone (you) how to machine polishing and techniques, explaining the abrasive/pads, clay barring, correct washing procedure and differences between products and so forth. Starts at 9 and finishes up at 1.30pm.

    The machines can not leave any burn marks in the paint, nor swirls. It actually will correct all the swirl marks in the paint, remove any imperfections* and bring your paint back to its glory and you just have to finish up with a wax or sealant.

    The only way to have a perfect finish with no swirls is a machine unfortunately, as by hand you do not have the consistency, heat, pressure or speed that a machine can offer to correct the paint 100%. They are very easy to use, as i said the clinic is an option if your in Sydney otherwise check out our videos online or give us a call and we can talk you through it all that's no problem at all.
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