Can you recommend a good buffer/polisher?

[MSE089]

my mate is looking to buy a decent buffer to he can finish his spray job on his car and i wouldnt mind buying something that is a decent polisher aswell.. Any reccomendations?

[m1lky]

The ones like a big grinder work much better than the larger twin handle ones

[MSE089]

The ones like a big grinder work much better than the larger twin handle ones

Sorry but that doesnt help much at all mate, but cheers.

[m1lky]

This style


Works much better than this style

Ignore that it's cordless

The first style just rotate and it works much better

[MSE089]

Thank for the tip mate.

Introducing the Mint Das6 RO polisher, perfect for the car enthusiast!
^^
I was wondering would this be any good for buffing? Im not exactly sure what differences you need between polishing and buffing.

[Pickle']

car care products sell a product called DAS6 come with most things needed. Have a look at their site

[MSE089]

I was looking at that but it doesnt say much about buffing, Would it do a decent job at buffing aswell?

[Kaka]

Top notch thing in DA range is this Flex

If you need something cheaper go with griots garage or mentioned above.

Do not touch orbital buffer if you have no experience, as you may destroy the paint ..

[MSE089]

Top notch thing in DA range is this Flex
If you need something cheaper go with griots garage or das6 mentioned above.

Do not touch orbital buffer if you have no experience, as you may destroy the paint ..

Cheers, but you gotta start somewhere i guess, Any tips of buffing a new paint job? I'll buy the one mentioned about and hope it does an okay job atleast, but ill manly be using it for polishing anyway.

Its not on my car, its just an old care we decided to give a cheap diy paint job and hopeing a good buff will get it looking glassy.

[vn_v6]

dont sit in the same spot with the buff, if your inexperienced spray the panel with abit of water from a windex bottle and watever you do DONT press on the edges with the buff. that =instant burn if u press and sit in the same spot. goodluck.

use very low speed

[Kaka]

Can you post some pics of the car you want to work on.

There are two crucial q's in the process ... One is choice of buffer, and the other is choice of pads and compounds used to achive the best possible result.

To start with you'll be fine with das6 thing as its affordable at $199 and identical to griots garage and G220 and similar chinese products, rebadged for different clients Made

Lets start with pics first ..

[Car Care Products]

The biggest thing on any machine you decide to purchase is ensure you are purchasing something that is Australian Compliant if you intend on purchasing abroad. You may find if something ever "were" to happen with a machine from overseas that your Home & Contents Insurance is Void if they investigate and find you used something that has not passed Australian Certification and has been tested locally. (As strange as it may sound, Customer advised us on this long ago!). Makes sense if you think about it.

Dual Action Random Orbitals for anybody is the safest way to be able to do your own car without damaging or hurting your paint. I think we send out about 6-10 kits on a day on average with all good results and comments/feedback coming back to us (and plenty of questions! haha).

Take a look here on How to Machine/Polish/Correct your paint (Which also includes a video in the link). It's easily done however the key thing is time unfortunately. You will find that it will take an entire day, although the best part is that you have the ability to be able to make your car look how you want and take your time to get the showroom + result you've always wanted.

The DAS6 Machine are 500w, the DAS6 Pro are 850w. We do have quite a few kits with both machines so its not to hard to find something best suited and around your budget if needed!

Very straight forward, and if you are locally in Sydney you are welcome to come by and do a Detailing Clinic that we hold here in Five Dock once a month.

[Car Care Products]

dont sit in the same spot with the buff, if your inexperienced spray the panel with abit of water from a windex bottle and watever you do DONT press on the edges with the buff. that =instant burn if u press and sit in the same spot. goodluck.

use very low speed

Dual Action Random Orbitals stop this from happening.

You will find a Rotary Machine itself will sit in the same spot as it only rotates causing more heat which than obviously can in turn burn the paint.

A DA RO machine will obviously rotate however orbit in 4-8mm (machine dependent) which will stop the chances of burning and causing holograms throughout the paintwork. I would never advise to "spray" water on the panel unless your product states 'can be used' or 'to be used' with water. Menzerna does not require water, or recommends to use with water.

For experienced professionals a Rotary is safe to use, in the wrong hands with someone with little or no experience it is not recommended to use as you could have the chance of doing some damage. Safest best for most is a Dual Action Random Orbital, just takes a little longer to get the result!

[toey@carfx]

with the right pad and polish combo the das6 will do just about everything a rotary will yet be alot safer for an inexperianced user. just to clear it up a bit buffing,polishing and cutting are all the same thing in essence, just easier to call it machine polishing.

there are detailer around the world that feel that the rotary is dead and the da polisher is the way of the future, especially with the advances in pad and polishes....only time will tell

[Kaka]

with the right pad and polish combo the das6 will do just about everything a rotary will yet be alot safer for an inexperianced user. just to clear it up a bit buffing,polishing and cutting are all the same thing in essence, just easier to call it machine polishing.

there are detailer around the world that feel that the rotary is dead and the da polisher is the way of the future, especially with the advances in pad and polishes....only time will tell

What combo of pads/polishes are you referring to?

The only product that comes in mind is Meg's DA Microfiber Correction System. Some knowledgeable peps claim it may produce results similar to those with rotary buffer ..

.. and yes, rotary is dangerous in hands of an inexperienced dude; its easy to burn the paint, so DA (dual action) is the solution.

Rotary's dead? I'd like to see those detailers who throw away their rotaries and switch back to Da's. This simply doesn't make sense especially with pro detailers, or any detailer (for that matter) who is familiar with rotary. Its quicker, and produces better results with less effort. DA and rotary are 2 separate categories. Advancing from a DA to a rotary is common with experienced detilers, but the other way around .. I doubt it.

[toey@carfx]

yep the megs micro fibre system is one of these new combos. some of these said detailers havent pulled out their rotary for compounding in over a year as its too slow compaired to these new systems as they can do full corrections in 2 stages rather then the traditional compounding then 2 or 3 more stages to remove trails and refine the paint.......pretty simple, less stages = quicker turn around.

does that mean ill throw away my rotary? no
do i want to try these systems? yes
will these systems take over the world? who knows, not any time soon as too many have their procedures down pat and wont want to change.
am i saying go and buy these new systems? no, just putting it out there that there is more then one way to skin a cat.

as technology evolves, we get new products and consumables on the market and as the end user we have to make the dicission to either stick with the tried and tested ways of the past or move into the future by trying out new technologies. heck who would of thought you could get a compound in a spray bottle the basically doesnt dust up

[blasta1]

as a vehicle painter you cant go past rotory buffs i personally run a rupes buff and if used in conjunction with ferecla g3 compound and a foam pad almost any one can achieve amazing results if they are prepared to just be patient the good part with the g3 is if it starts to dry to quikly you just add water from a spray bottle and if you are doin minor corrections you can very often just dampen your foam pad spray the panel with water and your basically done , like they said when foam buff pads were introduced even a monkey can use them with success , its all about being patient

[Car Care Products]

as a vehicle painter you cant go past rotory buffs i personally run a rupes buff and if used in conjunction with ferecla g3 compound and a foam pad almost any one can achieve amazing results if they are prepared to just be patient the good part with the g3 is if it starts to dry to quikly you just add water from a spray bottle and if you are doin minor corrections you can very often just dampen your foam pad spray the panel with water and your basically done , like they said when foam buff pads were introduced even a monkey can use them with success , its all about being patient

Not our recommendation personally. Reason i say this is G3 contains fillers and will mask the problem. Using in combination with a rotary in the wrong hands can do more harm than good.

Correcting the paint is the solution, not masking or hiding. You will find products like G3 if were to be washed afterwards with an APC that all marks including likelihood of holograms will appear because of the product itself.

If you are going to correct the paint, do it once and do it properly. Water is not needed with products like Menzerna as its not necessary, that and this product corrects the paint and does not mask the marks you have in the paint.

IF you're unsure just let us know and we can find the right package thats suited for you and what you are after.

[blasta1]

not argueing bloke but have used the product for 20 or more years and never had and problems lik you say and have done show cars and many high price vehicles from 1923 rolls royce to ferraris and never once had a customer complain of the quality of my end result

[Car Care Products]

Thats fair enough. Whatever works for you at the end of the day.....