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    Quote Originally Posted by dzire View Post
    Thanks for your quick reply =O. I shall hopefully be purchasing some of the black ones off of you. Still deciding whether its worth the $16 Freight, or worth the nice drive up there, are you open on Saturday or Saturday morning's by any chance? If you're open I'll drive, if not I'll just get it delivered =)
    Hey Dzire,
    It’s always a bit difficult to decide on a design until you have seen them on your car.
    We are open Saturday mornings. You are welcome to drive up and compare both colours against your car if you like. At least that way you will definitely be getting the ones you want. If you are going to make the drive just give us a quick call on 07 5476 0577 and i will have the lights out of storage ready for you to have a look at.
    If you do have any other questions please let me know.
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    Hey Andrew,
    Im thnking about purchasing you black LED lights to fit VT-VX lights off ebay, as i have seen them on there and asre going cheap aswell. But i have one question, because the brake lights are LED, is there any special sort of installment i need to do, if so is it hard? Sorry if this question has been asked before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris The Slayer View Post
    Hey Andrew,
    Im thnking about purchasing you black LED lights to fit VT-VX lights off ebay, as i have seen them on there and asre going cheap aswell. But i have one question, because the brake lights are LED, is there any special sort of installment i need to do, if so is it hard? Sorry if this question has been asked before.
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    Hi 'Chris The Slayer'
    That is a good question. However these lights are designed to plug directly in to the cars wiring harness. They are very easy to install.
    If you do have any other questions please let me know.
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    Hey Andrew,

    I think I'll go for the lot, do you also do those holden cold air intake plastic bits? I see them on ebay for about 60 bucks. Any idea what im on about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R3CON View Post
    Hey Andrew,

    I think I'll go for the lot, do you also do those holden cold air intake plastic bits? I see them on ebay for about 60 bucks. Any idea what im on about?
    Hi R3CON,
    Just though i would let you know i have sent a pm though about organising payment.
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    Hey Andrew,

    Just a quick question, don't know if this has been asked before, but are your parts ADR approved?
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    Hi dzire,
    Only a very small percentage of non genuine parts have been put through the ADR approval process. It is really only products that were very very popular 5 or 6 years ago that have the ADR approvals numbers.
    The laws changed back then and the exact wording of what is legal does vary between the states. But my interpretation across most of the states (and this only my opinion, after spending many hours reading about this) is that a light or car part must comply with the Australian Design Rules to be legal to use in Australia, it is not required to be approved by the ADR. There is also a get out which passes the requirements over to E marking. I can’t remember the exact Emark, but products manufactured to comply with certain European standards are also legal to use here. I feel that this was brought in for new cars, it allows the new car manufactures to use the European approvals when importing new models to Australia.
    A while ago I borrowed a copy of a local mechanics road worthy guide (it wasn’t called a guide but that’s basically what it was). I had no idea these existed but it was a massive folder that outlined what the majority of car parts (lights, bushes, bearings, seals, tyres ,brakes etc) needed to be to classed as roadworthy.
    Most parts are justified with common sense, but relating to the products we sell the most of, lights need to perform each of their intended functions correctly (brake lights, tail lights, reverse lights, indicator lights) and omit the correct colour for that function. One thing that most people are not aware of is if you change your lights to a version that do not have a red reflector the car can still be legal if you fit a red reflector the back of the car. Vehicles must have red reflectors that are visible when approaching the vehicle from behind but they do not need to be part of the lights.

    I hope it is a bit of insight for you, but ADR approved products (including genuine) are getting rarer by the day. But if you have any doubts check with a local RWCert mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carsRus View Post
    Hi dzire,
    Only a very small percentage of non genuine parts have been put through the ADR approval process. It is really only products that were very very popular 5 or 6 years ago that have the ADR approvals numbers.
    The laws changed back then and the exact wording of what is legal does vary between the states. But my interpretation across most of the states (and this only my opinion, after spending many hours reading about this) is that a light or car part must comply with the Australian Design Rules to be legal to use in Australia, it is not required to be approved by the ADR. There is also a get out which passes the requirements over to E marking. I can’t remember the exact Emark, but products manufactured to comply with certain European standards are also legal to use here. I feel that this was brought in for new cars, it allows the new car manufactures to use the European approvals when importing new models to Australia.
    A while ago I borrowed a copy of a local mechanics road worthy guide (it wasn’t called a guide but that’s basically what it was). I had no idea these existed but it was a massive folder that outlined what the majority of car parts (lights, bushes, bearings, seals, tyres ,brakes etc) needed to be to classed as roadworthy.
    Most parts are justified with common sense, but relating to the products we sell the most of, lights need to perform each of their intended functions correctly (brake lights, tail lights, reverse lights, indicator lights) and omit the correct colour for that function. One thing that most people are not aware of is if you change your lights to a version that do not have a red reflector the car can still be legal if you fit a red reflector the back of the car. Vehicles must have red reflectors that are visible when approaching the vehicle from behind but they do not need to be part of the lights.

    I hope it is a bit of insight for you, but ADR approved products (including genuine) are getting rarer by the day. But if you have any doubts check with a local RWCert mechanic.

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    Bit of a read, but worth it haha. So to clarify your parts are perfectly legal, and if I was to be pulled over by the cops I can argue that these are legal due to the lights omitting the correct colour and the car still having reflectors on the rear of the vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzire View Post
    Bit of a read, but worth it haha. So to clarify your parts are perfectly legal, and if I was to be pulled over by the cops I can argue that these are legal due to the lights omitting the correct colour and the car still having reflectors on the rear of the vehicle?

    Thanks, Brendan
    Hi Again,
    It’s really a difficult situation for us, as I will feel terrible if you do get fined. The lights should be legal and most police know what they are doing, but if they do question the legality of the lights definitely don't argue. Just be friendly and polite and ask them why they think they are not legal. If they can't give you an exact answer they shouldn't be able to give you a ticket.
    But lights definitely do not have to be ADR approved. We have sold close to 5000 sets of Altezza lights in the last two years and I have only had one customer contact me about a problem. It was a police officer from Emerald in QLD (this is a very country area) who gave my customer a written warning for not having ADR approval numbers on the lens. This was a while ago and it was this that sparked my enquiries in to what is required to be legal.
    I know the customer was never fined and kept using his lights, but they definitely don’t need an approval number on the lens. Back then I went and had a look at about 30 cars with original factory fitted lights and the only car that had ADR numbers was a TR Magna. Even Falcons don’t have ADR numbers on the lens of the lights.
    So you shouldn’t get any hassle, but if a Police officer wants to be awkward they will, so I wouldn’t recommend arguing with them it will not help the situation. Also to be safe contact either you local transport department or even better an registered engineer that can issue modification plates for vehicles as they will know what is definitely legal in your state.
    Please let me know if you do have any other questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsRus View Post
    Hi Again,
    It’s really a difficult situation for us, as I will feel terrible if you do get fined. The lights should be legal and most police know what they are doing, but if they do question the legality of the lights definitely don't argue. Just be friendly and polite and ask them why they think they are not legal. If they can't give you an exact answer they shouldn't be able to give you a ticket.
    But lights definitely do not have to be ADR approved. We have sold close to 5000 sets of Altezza lights in the last two years and I have only had one customer contact me about a problem. It was a police officer from Emerald in QLD (this is a very country area) who gave my customer a written warning for not having ADR approval numbers on the lens. This was a while ago and it was this that sparked my enquiries in to what is required to be legal.
    I know the customer was never fined and kept using his lights, but they definitely don’t need an approval number on the lens. Back then I went and had a look at about 30 cars with original factory fitted lights and the only car that had ADR numbers was a TR Magna. Even Falcons don’t have ADR numbers on the lens of the lights.
    So you shouldn’t get any hassle, but if a Police officer wants to be awkward they will, so I wouldn’t recommend arguing with them it will not help the situation. Also to be safe contact either you local transport department or even better an registered engineer that can issue modification plates for vehicles as they will know what is definitely legal in your state.
    Please let me know if you do have any other questions.
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    Thanks for all your help and information, really appreciative.

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    gday Andrew...
    do u do the altezza taillights for the vn/vp by any chance???

    really wanna get the clear altezza lights instead of the frosted looking ones..
    i reckon they would look dam extreme on the ol vn/vp models...
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    Time for a weird question.

    COuld you guys supply me with tailights for a VU ute... but that have been opened up?

    I'm asking because I'm toying with the idea of painting the black insert the same color as the rest of the ute...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesterarts View Post
    Time for a weird question.

    COuld you guys supply me with tailights for a VU ute... but that have been opened up?

    I'm asking because I'm toying with the idea of painting the black insert the same color as the rest of the ute...
    thats not a bad idea jesterarts id b interested if u could do that id b keen on the idea even 4 a sedan. mayb bakin them in the oven is the way 2 open em up not sure how that would effect the LEDs tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesterarts View Post
    Time for a weird question.

    COuld you guys supply me with tailights for a VU ute... but that have been opened up?

    I'm asking because I'm toying with the idea of painting the black insert the same color as the rest of the ute...
    Hi Jesterarts,
    That is a good idea, but i can't get the lights in an unsealed form and I wouldn't want to attempt taking them apart.
    I did have a customer about a year ago that wanted a similar effect (body coloured lights) but he had the idea of painting the out side of the lens.
    There is a type of light we do for the VUs and I am sure you would have seen them, where the three rounds lights stick out from the rest of the lens. He basically masked up the parts that light up and painted the rest of the lens.
    I have attached a picture of the car, it’s not a great pic but you can get an idea of what the lights look like when painted to match the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NV_90VN View Post
    gday Andrew...
    do u do the altezza taillights for the vn/vp by any chance???

    really wanna get the clear altezza lights instead of the frosted looking ones..
    i reckon they would look dam extreme on the ol vn/vp models...
    cheers
    Hi NV_90VN,
    Thanks for the enquiry but unfortunately i can't get the altezza style of light for the VN VP Sedans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsRus View Post
    Hi NV_90VN,
    Thanks for the enquiry but unfortunately i can't get the altezza style of light for the VN VP Sedans.
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    dam.... well whats the price on the dark tinted lights then??
    u know the black lookin ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NV_90VN View Post
    dam.... well whats the price on the dark tinted lights then??
    u know the black lookin ones?

    Hi Again,
    The only clear ones that are available for the VN VP are tinted but i wouldn't call it a dark tint and they definately don't look black.
    There is a picture just below. Are these the ones you were refering too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carsRus View Post
    Hi Again,
    The only clear ones that are available for the VN VP are tinted but i wouldn't call it a dark tint and they definately don't look black.
    There is a picture just below. Are these the ones you were refering too?

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    yea thats them... whats the price on them??
    im really after the other style but....is there anyway u or myself can make them like the altezza style??
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    hey, anyone knows how to get VE SSV tail lights, but tinted?
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    Hey carsRus what is the difference between the VS cystal headlights and the stock items cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NV_90VN View Post
    yea thats them... whats the price on them??
    im really after the other style but....is there anyway u or myself can make them like the altezza style??
    cheers
    Hi Again,
    Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. We have been so busy lately its becoming difficult to find time to get on the forum and for some reason we are not receiving posting notification emails.
    Anyway, back to the lights. Unfortunately you wouldn't be able to make these look like the chrome or black versions. The all clear tail lights to suit the VN sedans are currently $82.50.
    If you do have any other questions please let me know. You can contact me directly on andrew@carsrus.com.au if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozi_musl View Post
    hey, anyone knows how to get VE SSV tail lights, but tinted?
    Hi There,
    The VEs are still a bit new for the aftermarket parts light scene yet, we are still waiting on VY lights believe it or not, which is quite frustrating.
    Sorry we can't help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxcxcxvcvcvc View Post
    Hey carsRus what is the difference between the VS cystal headlights and the stock items cheers!
    Hey cxcxcxvcvcvc,
    The crystal lights have a crystal clear lens unlike the frosted standard ones. They are really nice update look for the VR and VS models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsRus View Post
    Hey cxcxcxvcvcvc,
    The crystal lights have a crystal clear lens unlike the frosted standard ones. They are really nice update look for the VR and VS models.
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    Ahh no worries!
    Will be looking @ getting a set of tail lights when i get my tax return just not sure whether to get the black background ones or the chrome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsRus View Post
    Hi Jesterarts,
    That is a good idea, but i can't get the lights in an unsealed form and I wouldn't want to attempt taking them apart.
    I did have a customer about a year ago that wanted a similar effect (body coloured lights) but he had the idea of painting the out side of the lens.
    There is a type of light we do for the VUs and I am sure you would have seen them, where the three rounds lights stick out from the rest of the lens. He basically masked up the parts that light up and painted the rest of the lens.
    I have attached a picture of the car, it’s not a great pic but you can get an idea of what the lights look like when painted to match the body.
    Regards
    Andrew
    Yeah... pretty much the idea... thats the light i was thinking too, well thats an option... but i personally thing it would look better inside the lense... hmmmm

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