general holden question

[destiny]

when i get my l's ill be getting a 05' vz alloytec v6 auto, currently my dad drives it, i heard that the ecotec's are better than the alloytecs for modding, i was wondering if i should sell it and buy a vy ecotec or if the alloytec is fine for the mods i want to do, i dont really like the buying and selling process to much searching, but my planned modds are as folo's:

custom cold air intake
k n n pod filter
probly upgrade the spark plugs
extractors
10psi boost upgrade hopefully if i have the money

hopefully the alloytec is fine for the mods i want to do.
thanks in advance guys

[BoNeZ-01]

They're 'giving' you an '05 model Commodore, for getting your L's, and that's not enough?
Alloytec's are fine, Stick with the VZ for now, before you go searching for any unnecessary performance.
The VZ will be a great car to learn in, and a safe one too, until you have fully learnt to drive, and gained enough experience on the road.

[BoNeZ-01]

Oh ok, so you've owned a licence before, and had to start again?
Sorry, I miss understood that part.. lol
There isn't a major amount of difference between the two engines, I think the Alloytec will still handle basic mods.
But what are the laws where you live? Just not sure about what the laws where you are for Learner's and modified cars?

[destiny]

i haven't had a license before, i live in vic, im not to woried about the laws cuz im gonna try make it a sleeper, nd i no the alloytec should be able to handle most of those mods im just mostly woried about the boost upgrade, im hoping for a 10psi.

[BoNeZ-01]

Ok, I just wondered how you'd had all your experience on the road without a licence before.. lol
When you say 'boost' upgrade, how exactly do you want to do it?
Some V6's do come with a supercharger, so I'm guessing you mean to change the pulley or something to increase the boost?
Or do you intend to install a turbo?

[destiny]

im not sure i read somwhere if you upgrade the boost pressure to 10psi instead of the stock which is 6 or 7 or sumfin you get like 30-40kw more, i dont intend to install a turbo it would b quite costly wouldnt it? or do i need to have a turbo installed for a boost upgrade?

i have about a month till i get my l's so i have a while to decide what to do

[sik_dose]

You wont know much untill you spend some time driving alone without mum telling you to watch your speed and slow down for corners. best advice I can give you is to learn to drive first as your doing that save your pennys then worry about modding your car.

[BoNeZ-01]

Well I mean, unless the car already has a supercharger on it, there is no way to increase the boost, because there wont be any boost to start with.
The easiest way I know of for increasing the psi of a s/c, is by changing to a slightly smaller pulley, which means the s/c will spin slightly faster, giving a slightly higher psi.
The only other way I could think of, is if the car has been fitted with an aftermarket belt driven s/c, like a Capa s/c or something.
These may have some room for adjustment or modifying, to increase psi.

[destiny]

ive driven alone, can we just not worry about that part and jus concentrate on the engines for now?

school holidays r over


so im gonna need a supercharger? fck that ruined my dreams, oh well, it will b easyier to get a turbo then i dont have to pay for the boost.

[kalekale]

I think raptor make a supercharger for the alloytec. They are one of the forum sponsors.

[one_and_only2004]

Yeah, i heard the rate for supercharged boost is about $34.50/KW - was only about $10/KW when i bought mine GOD DAMN INFLATION.

Seriously, Not one VZ was factory supercharged or turbocharged so i'm not sure what pulley you're going to change for more boost. The raptor ~10psi kit costs about $6000 all up.

CAI, panel filter and spark plugs are a good idea providing the kilometers on the said car are relatively high, extractors maybe down the track yes. I wouldn't bother with the charger at this point in time, by the sounds of it you're probably going to get bored with this car and buy something quicker anyway.



on another note, it's you're.

[BoNeZ-01]

The best I can think of for you, would be to keep the VZ until you get your P's.
Then maybe think about trading it in, or selling it, to buy a car that already has a s/c or turbo fitted to it?
Then you can set the boost and other mods however you like.

[destiny]

i recon ill do the small mods i can now and try keep the sleeper look, untill i get a full licences, then ill try get v8 ve or a s15

[destiny]

i do appriciate that im getting a vz when im on my l's, and i have driven it before a couple of times, but whats wrong with a bit of extra performance?
its like me telling you guys that you have fast cars when thier stock and thats enough powerfor you and you cant modd them, you guys certainly wouldnt appriciate me tell you that, and i dont appriciate you guys tell me that.

[Darren_L]

mate boost relates to the amount of pressure a supercharger or turbo produces - and unfortunately a factory Alloytec isn't available with any of these goodies. So unless you have a spare few thousand $$ to spend, then scrap the boost idea and stick with atmospheric pressure ie naturally aspirated.

however, the other mods you mentioned are easily achievable on an Alloytec V6. Instead of a pod filter, replace the factory air filter with a K&N panel filter in conjunction with the CAI

[minux]

To the trolls.

Answer the OP, or do not post.

Be grateful half of you did not receive infractions.

If it continues, I will change that outcome.

[TVR-190]

custom cold air intake - just do 2 hole mod
k n n pod filter - easy
probly upgrade the spark plugs - dont waste your time
extractors - might aswell go exhaust also then
10psi boost upgrade hopefully if i have the money - not even applicable to alloytec....

[destiny]

thank you minux finally some order

@ tvr, why no spark plugs?

[TI3VOM]

It's not ok to express my opinion on this forum to someone that want's to break the law what's the world coming to?
Yet it's ok to post a thread asking people to help them break the law that makes sense.

So in other word's it's not okay to tell this person that they are not smart, as it might hurt there feeling's.

But it's okay to ask for help on how to break the law possibly seriously injuring or killing someone by driving a to powerful car with little or no experience.

I thought this forum did not approve of illegal behavior whether or not it's being committed now or later

Oh and to show that I am doing the right thing (take your spare tire + the cover and the jack out of the boot keep your car on a quarter of a tank of PULP always + tape up all the gaps on your car it will work wonders.)

[destiny]

It's not ok to express my opinion on this forum to someone that want's to break the law what's the world coming to?
Yet it's ok to post a thread asking people to help them break the law that makes sense.

So in other word's it's not okay to tell this person that they are not smart, as it might hurt there feeling's.

But it's okay to ask for help on how to break the law possibly seriously injuring or killing someone by driving a to powerful car with little or no experience.

I thought this forum did not approve of illegal behavior whether or not it's being committed now or later

Oh and to show that I am doing the right thing (take your spare tire + the cover and the jack out of the boot keep your car on a quarter of a tank of PULP always + tape up all the gaps on your car it will work wonders.

i dont think i could take the spare tire out in case i pop one "showing off", also are you serious bout the quater tank of fuel, i also dont think i could do that either in case i get chased by the 5-0, theres no time to stop at a petrol station nd fuel up

[savage1987]

It's not ok to express my opinion on this forum to someone that want's to break the law what's the world coming to?
Yet it's ok to post a thread asking people to help them break the law that makes sense.

So in other word's it's not okay to tell this person that they are not smart, as it might hurt there feeling's.

But it's okay to ask for help on how to break the law possibly seriously injuring or killing someone by driving a to powerful car with little or no experience.

I thought this forum did not approve of illegal behavior whether or not it's being committed now or later

Grammar aside, I agree with you 100 ****ing per cent.

i dont think i could take the spare tire out in case i pop one "showing off", also are you serious bout the quater tank of fuel, i also dont think i could do that either in case i get chased by the 5-0, theres no time to stop at a petrol station nd fuel up

You are making yourself look an idiot, nobody thinks you are funny any more.

Sam

[destiny]

Grammar aside, I agree with you 100 ****ing per cent.

You are making yourself look an idiot, nobody thinks you are funny any more.

Sam

why do u keep coming back? jus piss off, ill do my thing u do urs.

[savage1987]

Why are you still asking about modifications you aren't allowed to do to a VZ that isn't even yours yet?




If you put a bunch of sand in an idler pulley bearing, it'll sound like you have a supercharger.




But hey, I suppose you're what, 15? and into cars, well we all have to start somewhere. Do a search and learn how things work for yourself, don't expect to be fed all the answers in this fail thread.

Sam

[H1GHROLLR]

also another good thing to do with sand is fill up your air box with it and remove the filter , then get on the freeway and reach speeds in excess of 200kmh and you will infact port and polish your heads/intake , this should see gains upto 200rwkw for every 20kgs of sand

[VKCOMMO]

I agree with TVR on this...

AND... please, stop making an idiot of youself, this forum doesnt go for illegal behaviour, you've just said that you need your spare tyre if you pop one showing off and that you will NEED a full tank of fuel to run from the police