Little help? What engine is this????
Little Help? New here.
What engine is this?
What Commodore is it out of?
Does it respond well to some stroking?
Does it have any inherent weaknesses?
Is it good for power and reliability?
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It's a 5 litre holden V8.... Came from a VR/VS clubsport by the looks of it.
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Yep definitely the 185kw engine.Originally Posted by wraith
The GTS came with a stroked 5.7 Litre version of this engine making 215kw, which was also an option on the Senator.
Looks like a 4 stroke to me, mate.
Looks like it's still mounted in the car - that should tell you what it's out of?
unless it's a front cut, then it would be damn near impossible!
Nope - compliance plate would be there with enough detail to contact HSV and get info.
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Holden 5L. Been around since the late 60's. This one has fuel injection, being a later model.
Is this a troll attempt?
It's no troll.
The engine has been transplanted into a GU Patrol.
It has apparently been stroked to a 355?
I am interested in what would be better for low down torque and overall reliability, this 185i (stroked) or a LS2?
I am favouring an LS2.
Would a newly rebuilt and stroked 185i (10,000 Km) be in the running to a LS2 (75,000Km+)?
Many of the 3.0l TD Patrols go bang after about 140,000km, and the ones I am after (aside from a 6.5l Brunswick) are Holden V8 conversions. Needing toque, reliability and something that would also more benefit form modification in the future I was thinking the LS2 as the engine of choice, am I thinking along the right lines?
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There's easy ways to stop the 3 litre patrols from going bang. Do some research and save your money.
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If your talking about NADS than yes. But there are other things that fail too, that NADS don't cover. The thing is I have the money to get something with a LS2 which would be much preferred to a 3.0l any day. Most likely for much less than it would cost for me to do a conversion or even add NADS to an dying Patrol... Or that is what I am thinking anyway.... Wouldn't a LS2 be much better than a 3.0l patched up with NADS?
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Why would you pull a diesel out and put a petrol in? Hell if you were going to go stupid chuck a duramax in with the allison transmission. More tourqe then you can handle and at least it's still a diesel. Just FYI we have a patrol and have done all the modifications needed. Suprise suprise no over boosting.
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Where are you planning to go that you would need a worked LS2 for? Mordor?
Patrols are built for high ks.
I know 2 of them:
A 91 4.2l diesel one met it's fate with water in the cylinders while 4wding at 350k
A 98 3l tdi one still going strong with well over 200k
Both on original engines.
Stroking any engine is going to reduce your reliability. The engineers specd it based on the size. They didn't just put extra metal there for fun
I am not converting it. Just looking at ones around that have already been converted. I would love 6.5 Brunswick, just out of my price range. A good 4.2td are as rare as. As far as GU Patrol go with engine conversions that come in at the early $30K' the LS2 seems to me to be the better way to go.
Thanks for the info. It's true, you treat these engines, or any engine right and it will go for longer. The 3.0l is well renowned for fails and buying a second hand one where I can't be sure of the previous treatment is too much of a risk if it lets go. Then by the time I would do an engine conversion it would have been cheaper to just buy a GU already converted.
I think a garden variety LS1/2 would be more than adequate and the GU Patrol drive train would handle that power no probs at all. Perhaps some mods required to the auto tranny. Some of the conversions to LS2's I've seen do have other mods added to them already.
More power is always more. As far as purposeful goes, there are VN's running around with RB30/26 combo + a big arse turbo and welded rear diff only to cruise MacDonald's car parks and pull fully sic elevensies11 on the back roads with a car load of blokes. That just doesn't make sense.
But swapping out an old oiler that has a history of fails for something with more low down grunt, lower emissions, improved towing for a boat or camper trailer, climbing hills, getting to places like the Cape and roostering tsunamis of mud and dirt all the while sounding like the world is coming to an end with a LS2 at full song. Now that makes perfect sense!!
Last edited by Dube; 27-08-2011 at 10:47 AM.
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Sigh I give up. Don't listen to reason. Spend more then you need. Have fun.
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a guy i know put a LS1 turbo set up in his short wheel base GQ (resently sold) but that was a really reliable 4wd during the week and on weekends it was a MACHINE loved rev limiter it didnt just climb hills it pulled them down endless power and he would still drive it home at the end of the day with no problems, had still the stock diffs ect and they never broke. i'd recomend going a LS1/2
my first car is a holden and i will die with a holden
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3.0's are a waste of time.. If it goes bang replace it. The LS1 conversion is a popular one. As for the 304, that conversion is easy too...
Thanks for the responses. That LS1 turbo would be a weapon for a Patrol.
Agreed the 3.0's are too much of a risk, or you need to throw good money at them to make them less likely to explode. The newer 3.0l common rail's have fueling problems and are super sensitive to dirty fuel that can lead to catastrophic failure and some 10k large to replace the entire fuel system.
I am now looking for a LS2 GU.
Obviously Unsensible
what about a HEMI?
that could be another option
how about we make the pedals out of sticky rubber and the shoes with steel spikes. at least my shins would like that
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Ewwwwwwwwwwww.......
30k for a brunswick conversion? no way?
I had a brunswick conversion done on a Maverick in 2001. I was in the NT, I told them I wanted a car. They sourced and purchased a 1990 Maverick for 10k, and added another 10k for the conversion. I laid out 20 grand for the whole deal, flew down to Perth and drove it home.
I know inflation is a beach, but from 10 to 30k in 10 years?
Never driven a hemi huh?
Not suitable for 4wd though, only weekend warriors drive petrol 4wds.
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