ss/hsv bits on a base model.. am i a hypocrite?

[fluxxx]

this may have been discussed before and no doubt some people are going to have some strong views on this, but here goes:

most work days i see a vt exec with a full vx clubby kit on it. its got lights, wheels and even a few hsv badges and it sits so high off the ground that it looks like you could take it 4wd'ing. i know the person who owns it probably loves it to death and thats all that really counts, but i still cant help laughing when i see a mocked up ss or hsv.

ive even been arguing with my little brother about him trying to turn a stock ba falcon into a gtp... but now here i am thinking about putting a calais interior and vz ss head and tail lights onto my vy acclaim

what do people think? is it ok to mock up base model cars to look like something theyre not? am i being a hypocrite? do people feel there is a line which shouldnt be crossed whereby some things are other and some are not?

matt

[SVZ]

i guess it's the fun and gratification out of accomplishing something why not
upgrade parts as long as it is tastefully done if we never upgraded parts life would be boring not everyone can afford hsv's and luxury sports cars so why not make it your way

[VZ-Rob]

Go for it the SS VZ headlights are cool
would look ok

[Nobody Actually]

as long as you don't try and claim it's the real deal, it's a mock-up. if you try and lie it becomes a mockery...........


my 2c

[1991_Vn2nV]

this may have been discussed before and no doubt some people are going to have some strong views on this, but here goes:

most work days i see a vt exec with a full vx clubby kit on it. its got lights, wheels and even a few hsv badges and it sits so high off the ground that it looks like you could take it 4wd'ing. i know the person who owns it probably loves it to death and thats all that really counts, but i still cant help laughing when i see a mocked up ss or hsv.

ive even been arguing with my little brother about him trying to turn a stock ba falcon into a gtp... but now here i am thinking about putting a calais interior and vz ss head and tail lights onto my vy acclaim

what do people think? is it ok to mock up base model cars to look like something theyre not? am i being a hypocrite? do people feel there is a line which shouldnt be crossed whereby some things are other and some are not?

matt

For me personally, you cross the line with badges. Never badge something to make it look like something its not.

And if you are going to make something look like a HSV, make it move quicker than a stocko or atleast have good plans for it.

[evil_monkey]

1991_Vn2nV is right sure put kits on change this change that but dont rebadge it a lot of people do modifications that look like crap but then theres a lot of people that put kits on their car and change this change that and it looks awesome when in the beggining it might of only been a poverty pack what does it matter its not a poverty pack anymore its a "custom pack"

[ssmate]

For me personally, you cross the line with badges. Never badge something to make it look like something its not.

And if you are going to make something look like a HSV, make it move quicker than a stocko or atleast have good plans for it.

well said . .

[MikesVT]

I see a black VT acclaim, with VX rear lights (NOT berlina/calais), it looks like an SS body kit, VY SS rims and VY SS badges, the badges are even on crooked, under the SS badge on the boot it still has the Acclaim badge.

I've also seen a blue VT, has an SS bodykit, VY SS badges, VX SS rims, VT Clubsport badges (under the SS badges) and again, the SS badges put on crooked... It looks shocking.

I think the only acceptable way is if you put later model bages on the same model older car (eg. VX SS badges on a VN SS) but that just my opinion. Eath to their own.

[TI0350]

Personally I wouldn't do it, it's badge thing for me as well.. After owning a brockie and now an SS I get a little miffed when I see someone trying to make their out to be something it isn't..
I was cruising around with a mate the other day and pointed to what looked like from behind a VZ Clubby had all the badges as we were pulling along side clubby.. As we pulled up along side and my mate starts laughing he points to the front guard and it's still got the V6 badge on it..

[antvt]

if its done properly and it looks good then i dont see an issue, but as others have said, when it comes to badges, dont go there. My bro has a VT v6 wagon, with statesman front and it looks great, dont get me wrong, but the previous owner was gonna put a gen3 in and had already put the badges on in anticipation, but never got around to the conversion. Its still a V6, and the Gen3 badges are still there. it annoys me, but hes happy.

[sixshooter]

Personally I dont have problem with it...except if someone is trying to pass off a fake as the real thing when selling !...I wonder how many of these cars with Brocky signatures are real...I reckon I've seen some awfull fakes on eBay !!!

[KingDiamond]

As long as the owner likes it thats fine.

Who cares what anyone else thinks. I put/take stuff on my car because I like it, not because I'm scared of what others will think...

Like a few people have said "why put a Stateman Garnish badge on your Berlina" - because it looks good to me.

[Lumps of cheese]

I'm with most here, badges is a no no for me.
I'm all for making your car look a bit sportier altho i'm not a fan of body kits.
SS or clubby lights look good, basic stuff like that i don't see a problem with.

[89vncommy]

I have calais-ed up my car.. Put in the seats, the roof, door trims, and even the dash....

Most of my door trims were rooted, the roof was sagging, the dash was bubbled in one spot, and the seats were just the stock S Pack seats and one of the springs was sticking up on the drivers one.. So it was a little bit of a pain on those long drives...

But I left the calais badge on the dash... But don't have any other badges on it anyway ... It has all the electric windows, and central locking so now I guess it is just like a real Calais anyway ... lol ...

[davey g-force]

I bought my VY SS brand new and paid decent money for it. In an ideal world, I'd like my car to look distinctive from say, an Executive. I think it's unfair when guys with an Exec can make their car look like mine (to the untrained eye) even though they paid half as much for it.

This used to get me furious when the car was newer - now that it's three years old, I'm not as fussed by it.

But yeah, I agree that badges are where you cross the line, as I've recently been arguing in this thread:
Post Pictures of your VY here.

[VNCalais98K]

My pet hate is seeing newer model badges on older model cars...
For example the VT Calais badges on VL or VNs.
Or the VX SS badges on the VK or something.

Personally i think whatever you do to the interior is fine, and it makes the car look good and comfortable. whatever. EG Calais bits in an Executive.
Exterior it should be standard to your model, or custom.
Things like Mags arent so much an issue, but mocking up a car to be something its not is just sad.

It doesnt irk me personally, i just feel its not what modifying should be. theres no originality in it, no class or style.. it just cheapens the actual higher model.

[Cav]

Let's face it, blokes love their cars.

Some blokes have more money than others.

Modifying cars costs money.

So if a bloke makes changes to HIS CAR that he loves, who are we to question it?

After all it is HIS pride and joy.

[-UNKNOWN-]

The only thing that pisses me off is VT owners puting aftermarket/monaro tail lights in without changing the boot garnish. Also what VNCalais89K said about newer badges on older cars pisses me off too. There is no VK SS no VH Calais, dont put em on your car coz your being laughed at by all.

[davey g-force]

Let's face it, blokes love their cars.

Some blokes have more money than others.

Modifying cars costs money.

So if a bloke makes changes to HIS CAR that he loves, who are we to question it?

After all it is HIS pride and joy.

That's fair enough - as long as it doesn't cheapen the higher model cars.

The higher models are someone's pride & joy too...

[1991_Vn2nV]

I always get embarrassed when I pull up next to a VZ SS cause of my guards, or a VY Clubsport cause of my kit.

Purely because I feel so cheap that they can afford an actual VY clubsport... I can only afford a VN with VY Clubsport kit

[VNCalais98K]

No, thats completely different.
Modding a VN with a VY kit is different.
Its stylising and its custom. Its different.
Its not like you have a VN SS kit on a VN Exec.

In that scenario you should feel better than you have a personal car and they are just driving a "stock" clubby. More money than sense... haha!!

[89vncommy]

I always get embarrassed when I pull up next to a VZ SS cause of my guards, or a VY Clubsport cause of my kit.

Purely because I feel so cheap that they can afford an actual VY clubsport... I can only afford a VN with VY Clubsport kit

Don't feel bad about yours... Your car looks hot ... Who cares that it is a VN .. I want to do a similar thing to mine, when I get to free up some cash .. Overall the VN has a great shape, and I am in love with it ... What you have done with yours looks awesome ...

[1991_Vn2nV]

cheers fella's.

I dont so much feel bad about it, I have alot of pride in my car, but I feel awkward next to a real VY Clubby.

[davey g-force]

...you should feel better than you have a personal car and they are just driving a "stock" clubby. More money than sense... haha!!

Just a stock Clubby?

I know which one I'd rather have! (No offence 1991_Vn2nV)

[greenfoam]

Just about the only GT's and XU1's you see on the road today are replicas, even the replicas are almost worth too much (not only money value) to drive around so replicas do have a place in the world, eventually

But I wouldn't be making a V6 look like anything (on the outside) unless it had a engine transplant first