New P plate rules VIC

the_cookster · #1 16-03-2008, 09:35 PM

In july 2007 they made some new P plate rules, one of this is not being able to drive a car with an engine that has been modified to increase its performance.

So when it comes to things like cai, extractors, and exhaust, would these be banned or not??

Wagon_Wheel · #2 16-03-2008, 09:42 PM

Yeah all that basic stuff, BANNED
Stupid if u ask me....
Cant mod a slow car... while other cars that are still legal could be quicker than

feistl · #3 16-03-2008, 10:05 PM

God thats ****, Just do stuff like roller rockers, cams, increase compression, port and polish etc...

Cops wont be able to tell...

the_cookster · #4 16-03-2008, 10:20 PM

that realy is ####, i have a 2.5 inch exhaust on my car (no extracters) and a cai, but i think that comes standerd on a VS doesn't it?? the cai that is.

Morton · #5 16-03-2008, 10:54 PM

You can most likely get away with the more expensive mods, like diff gears, LSD, transmission mods, head porting, good tune etc. Just make your car a good sleeper so nobody is the wiser

Also invest in some really good tyres and FE2 springs if you want an increase in handing. It's amazing what good tyres can do.

To be completely honest, I don't think you'll get barred over a cold air intake. Just act innocent, say "I don't know" and pretend it came with the car.

feistl · #6 16-03-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Morton

To be completely honest, I don't think you'll get barred over a cold air intake.

I agree, i think its more to give cops power to fine/impound a car if the driver is being a dick or whatever.

If you were driving a completely stock car with an exhaust and CAI, 99% of cops would consider this fine.

However if it was 2am and they had seen you speeding (but didnt get you on radar) then they'd get you for it.... If that makes sense.

the_cookster · #7 17-03-2008, 11:22 AM

Yer that does and i guss i have been driving around with it for the last 9 months with out any trouble.

thanks guys

And_ROOS · #8 19-03-2008, 02:28 AM

More the point, if you claim you bought the car like that and act like you have little car knowledge to have known its modded, what are you to do? Just dont drive like an asshat and the cops wont care, my friend is driving in a modded commodore which he shouldnt be but because he doesnt make it obvious its been fine so far.

Classifi3d Calais · #9 20-03-2008, 12:27 AM

My calais is a little louder than factory, its got 2.5inch catback, high ratio roller rockers, and a few other bits a pieces such as CAI and chip. I dont drive like a dick head so i dont get pulled over. Simple.

And_ROOS · #10 20-03-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Classifi3d Calais

My calais is a little louder than factory, its got 2.5inch catback, high ratio roller rockers, and a few other bits a pieces such as CAI and chip. I dont drive like a dick head so i dont get pulled over. Simple.

Id suggest the 5-0 may keep an eye on you though if its a nice clean Calais, especially if you are on your Ps.

padrickz88 · #11 20-03-2008, 01:48 AM

random question, so is suspension counted aswell? insurance count it as a "performance" mod, but its more for handling (if not to low)

i got my p's before then so its not my problem, but just asking for a mate

Reaper · #12 20-03-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by the_cookster

In july 2007 they made some new P plate rules, one of this is not being able to drive a car with an engine that has been modified to increase its performance.

So when it comes to things like cai, extractors, and exhaust, would these be banned or not??

Yep.

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Originally Posted by feistl

God thats ****, Just do stuff like roller rockers, cams, increase compression, port and polish etc...

Cops wont be able to tell...

ROFL.... just because the "Cops wont be able to tell...." doesn't mean it's not illegal. Chances are you can be pulled over 1000 times and nobody will pick it, right up to the day you run into the back of another car and the insurance co want an excuse not to pay out.

"We regret to inform you that as you were not licensed to operate that vehicle your insurance is deemed null and void".

Furthermore, why spend a small fortune on stuff like rockers, cams, heads, compression etc etc etc when at best the power gains will be minimal as you won't be able to get the airflow either into or out of the engine?

Surely the best answer would be to concentrate on gaining road experience rather than looking for any loophole to get around the law???

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Originally Posted by padrickz88

random question, so is suspension counted aswell? insurance count it as a "performance" mod, but its more for handling (if not to low)

According to the deputy commissioner for roads/traffic that was on the radio when this legislation became effective, "performance" modifications were deemed to be those that delivered greater hp/torque and thus suspension upgrades (that still complied with the relevant state legislation & ADR's) were ok. Check out the VicRoads website for full details.

Reaper

Tom_1569 · #13 20-03-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by padrickz88

random question, so is suspension counted aswell? insurance count it as a "performance" mod, but its more for handling (if not to low)

i got my p's before then so its not my problem, but just asking for a mate

As far as i know, yes. I wanted to do disc brake rear end, i asked when doing the rego on my car at vic roads and police station, and they both said NO its a modification that will increase the cars performance. I personelly think modifications like that are for safety, and thats why i want to do it, the VK pulls up like a dog.
Same goes with replacing my worn 24 year old suspension with knew whiteline gear, its seen as a performance mod

good excuse when i snap a ball joint or shock and kill a heap of innocent people, sorry the laws says if i fix it with good parts im not allowed to drive my car. WTF STEVE BRACKS, WTF JOHN BRUMBY FOR NOT PULLING IT!!!