More bullshit from the NSW Government. Saw the following article in the fish wrapper today.
"Cars with heavily tinted windows will be given an on-the-spot defect notice . Highway Patrol officers have been issued with electronic meters that can immediately check if windows comply with legal tinting limits.
"Cars with windows tinted beyond the legal limit could be fined up to $84, whle those driving in breach of a defect notice could receive a fine of $253.
"NSW laws state that the side and rear windows must allow 35 percent of light to pass through."
This shit Government can't fund the real issues for the people of this state, but they can find the money to give cops light meters to make money through fines. Bloody typical.
Agreed. Just another example of how shit house our government is. I thought the cops already had these meters though? Why give them to HWP cops, as if those pricks need more ways to give bullshit fines.
there was a good article in the paper the other day here where a person spotted a suspicious person with hoody and spray paint going around looking in peoples cars along a street, he called the local cop shop to give them a heads up about hiom and they said there were no unit available due to them all being at a rbt at the time...
Who cares. If you have tinted your windows legally you'll be fine. It's not like the 35% rule hasn't been around for the past decade or longer.
If you get caught with with 5% tint, i have no sympathy for you.
HWP aren't concerned with dodgy people in hoodies, it's a moot point.
I've got 5% on my car, and i've been pulled over atleast half a dozen times (RBT ect, not for doing something wrong) and the police have never said a word about the tint. And it's not like they couldnt tell that the windows were tinted beyond legal. Maybe i've just been really lucky. And i'll probably go for 2% tint for my next car (yes there is a 2%, and i can get it..) So yes, my own fault if i get fined for it, but i would still be pissed off. Like others have said, there are people out there actually commiting an offence. I don't see myself as a bad person (a criminal even) for having some dark tint on my car. So i do have sympathy for anyone who does cop a fine for it....
Be careful if you have an accident with your 5% tint and have to claim insurance. Those thieves will look for any excuse not to payout.
tint stripping is about $50, just what i did when i had my accident. 3 days later i was getting the 5% removed. And no, the tint was unrelated to the accident.
I've recently had mine tinted in 5% and I realize why it's illegal, makes it so much harder to see at night.
Lucky I enjoy the breeze...
Can't really see the problem with those laws, it's an illegal mod...what do you expect?
I have pretty tinted windows, always have. Only time i feel an issue is night time in a dark tight turn, cant see the gutter through the door window great. But other then that no problem.
Sounds a little like revenue raising. However i am sure, though not 100% sure. Holden did factory tint their windows on an earlier model commodore ?. Off the top of my head only, it was standard feature on the car.
The thread's point has just flown out the window ladies and gents. Violence in our cities are apparently rampant, not to worry... But watch the **** out if your car has dark tint!!
Way to spend what dwindling resources the NSW government has left, laser lights for the HWP.
Watch out guys, he's going to get you!
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Because lack of resources to combat spray paint holding hoods is irrelevant to HWP spending their time booking people for having dark tint. HWP cars usually only deal with the roads, they probably aren't going to be the ones responding to other issues.
I can't imagine these devices being terribly expensive. And a single purchase lasts years.
Last edited by TMM; 16-08-2009 at 04:16 AM.
People have obviously missed that only HIGHWAY PATROL are being given the devices. Its not normal police. So I don't think the argument about city violence and kids with spray paint cans is quite so relevant.
My point was that the Government thinks illegal window tinting is SO important in the overall scheme of things that it manages to find the funding to purchase these things, yet our basic infrastructure is falling to bits in NSW.
I realise that the cost would not have been huge, but it begs the question - just what does the government think is really important in this State?
Fark me, 16 years of the most incompetent, useless maladminstration in the state's history - the next election can't come quickly enough.
Those of you living outside NSW have nothing to complain about so far as your governments are concerned. This mob is in a league of its own.
I would think people not being able to see out their windows safely is a pretty damned important concern. They do not do these things just for the sake of it. I suggest trying to drive a vehicle in low light with 5% tint. The fact it is only highway cars equipped with says that there have been issues on highways with tint that has been too heavy.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
- Theodor Seuss Geisel
lol, why no sympathy for???
I work night shift, ive been pulled over many o times for random RBT (cops in my area, arnt the nicest ones either) and ive had no problems with it, ive been complemented on my tint by the police.
Wagon Wheel on this forum got pulled over one night for speedng by this one prick of a cop in our area and the cop gave geoff a defect notice, and it WASNT for the tint.
Some people just have to harden up.
dont worry, il start a ride thread soon.
Minux
You don't need a machine to tell whether the 5% tint is too dark or not, do you? Anybody with half a brain can tell that the dark tints (those which are really dangerous) are illegal. Those tints which are illegal but not total black outs might be less easy to determine as to legality, but are also less dangerous. Let's face it, window tinting has become excessive in recent years; there was a time when only legal tints were available, but the tinting industry seems to think it knows better these days and drivers have it fitted, knowing that it's illegal.
I just believe there are far more important things for this government to spend its limited money on.
Because people knowingly put illegal tint on their car and then cry unfair when they get defected. Same goes for people who illegally lower their car, have oversized wheels or fit a loud exhaust etc. I see far too many people who knowingly do a dodgy/illegal mods on here and then have a sook when it goes pear shaped for them. That and people who are "proud" of their defects.
If someone doesn't get booked for their illegal tint then good for them, but if they do then the only person they have to blame is themselves.
Each device probably only needs to fine a handful of people before it's paid for itselfIt's a no brainer purchase really - a negative result is virtually impossible to dispute, no running costs and it can't be vandalized.
Last edited by TMM; 16-08-2009 at 08:18 PM.
Tint professor once told me they can use the rear reflective tint, all around the car. The fellah finished off with, it's illegal though ?. This rear tint was impossible to see through.
Who the f**k wants 35%, ya can see straight through the crap. Defeats the purpose of getting tint.
A good quality 35% provides a significant reduction in heat, glare and UV light. Contrary to popular belief tint film isn't only to prevent people looking in, and looking fully hectik.
It's not illegal to fit it. It is illegal to drive on public roads with it.
Hey TMM,
I realise that these things will pay for themselves, and probably quite quickly. I also don't have any problem with police addressing the issue of excessively dark window tinting.
My point was that in NSW, there are some real issues that need to be addressed and the money could have been better spent. I understand that the money raised by using these devices will go into consolidated revenue, but my point is that police are quite capable of assessing the legality of window tinting without these devices . As I said to Minux, you don't need them to be able to see that a car with 5% tinting is illegal, and many of the shades of tinting between 5% and 35% would be equally obvious to the naked eye. It's only those tints that just exceed the limits that would not be so obvious, and do they really represent such an issue that they need to be detected and assessed by a device?