my ultra lows arnt looking so "ultra low" why?

[fergie_vs]

about 2 months ago i had ultra low king springs put in my vs. some say ultra lows are too low but if you had of seen how high it was you would have got them too. my issue is basiclly i think it should be alot lower still. i can just still fit my hand vetween guard and tyre. at the moment i have the original shocks in still (not the smartest thing to do i know) and am wondering that if i put shortened shocks in will the overall ride height be lower? and if so whats a good brand and how much am i looking at? i have a faint idea but not totaly sure.

cheers

[acarmody]

I'm not all up to date on suspension but it sounds like your sitting on the bumpstop. Shorter shocks should help, KYB, Pedders, Monroe are all quite good shocks.

[Grennan]

You have the original shocks in, thats why. But some shortened shocks in and it will drop. Monroe shortened shocks seem to be a popular choice, shouldnt be to expensive.

[acarmody]

Don't know why you would get new springs without replacing the shocks. Now you have to pull the front shocks out again, more expensive or more time. Not to mention dangerous, because the shocks will do nothing and will possibly break from receiving bumps while at its travel limit.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Shortened shocks will not affect the ride height. All they do is trap the springs when using ultra lows. There isn't much you can do apart from compressing the springs a bit more.

[Cobez]

Or throw in some SSSL's.

[fergie_vs]

what u mean by trap the springs?

Shortened shocks will not affect the ride height. All they do is trap the springs when using ultra lows. There isn't much you can do apart from compressing the springs a bit more.

[Troy711]

CHOP EM BRO

No, don't.. cos you are a dick head if you do.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

what u mean by trap the springs?

When you put lowered springs in, they are shorter than the originals even when just sitting on the floor. Shortened shocks have a shorter extended length to stop the body lifting too high resulting in the spring falling out. Going over large bumps such as a high railway crossing can make the body lift enough for the spring to fall out.

Can only happen with the rear.

[fergie_vs]

ok then with that being said though and providing this is true, in order to trap the springs it must actually be the weight of the car that traps them right? so if you put new shocks in and it traps the springs well it would have to be lower ? if you get what im saying it makes perfect sence. well at least to me it does

When you put lowered springs in, they are shorter than the originals even when just sitting on the floor. Shortened shocks have a shorter extended length to stop the body lifting too high resulting in the spring falling out. Going over large bumps such as a high railway crossing can make the body lift enough for the spring to fall out.

Can only happen with the rear.

[VH commodore]

i'll try and explain it in an easy way....wish i could just draw a picture lol....if u jack the rear of the car up, the distance between the wheel and the guard will increase until the shock reaches its full length (which will then start lifting the tyres off the ground) this distance with standard shocks is too great for lowered springs so the may fall out...lowered shocks are like your lowered springs, they are just shorter, so the body wont lift up far enough for the springs to fall out....

lowered shocks will not affect ride height. i found in the vh that ultra lows weren't very low either...if u wanna go low go to pedders, they have springs stupidly low if u want them.

[GetToDaChopa]

I personally think you have to wait longer so that the springs settle in. Mine took ages to drop.

[Escape-The-Fate]

i think ive got same problem with the vz..i put shortend shocks with ssl rears in and sl fronts and i look at it and think its still sitting like stock half the time lol..it drives like its lowerd..kinda looks abit lowerd and scrapes but not nearly as low as some vz's ive seen..not sure if i should go sssl's or wat..

[fergie_vs]

how long is ages? as my brother had an s pack and when he ot his lowered as the guy above said it drove like it was lowered but didnt look a hell of a lot lower. then it started to sag or settle in and looks good now. how long will i be waiting? or is that like asking how longs a piece of string and it all just depends?

I personally think you have to wait longer so that the springs settle in. Mine took ages to drop.

[soop]

Whats the fascination with ripping holes in the sump?

[GetToDaChopa]

Yeah i can't give you a time period since i drive a hell lot more then most people, just wait a bit longer.

[f1tzy]

^^ quicker than a sump plug

[acarmody]

I have the opposite problem to the OP. I got a VX and I put Kings 'Low' springs in the car all around and the back dropped quite a bit. I though low was only about FE2 height, the car went a bit lower than that. I'll see if I car get a photo.

[acarmody]

Maybe some bigger brakes on the back are needed, stock looks too small.

[Escape-The-Fate]

to the above post, that is a nice height in my eyes...mine sits higher in the rear..doesnt exactly sit flat which is wat i want..not overly low as can go but flat..maybe i just have to wait for them to sag or something..driven on them for almost 3000k's now so still pretty new i guess? for anyone interested its got BOGES shortend shocks and KINGS SL front and SSL rear..dude at shop ran on percentages 30% front and 50% rear..

[greenacc]

ok then with that being said though and providing this is true, in order to trap the springs it must actually be the weight of the car that traps them right? so if you put new shocks in and it traps the springs well it would have to be lower ? if you get what im saying it makes perfect sence. well at least to me it does

Using your own logic fergie, changing the shocks does not change the weight of the car, so therefor it won't change the ride height. It only changes the amount of wheel travel you get

[fergie_vs]

no i dont mean the weight i mean if it lower there would be more weight on the springs in the form of the cars body. what you mean with the wheel travel?

Using your own logic fergie, changing the shocks does not change the weight of the car, so therefor it won't change the ride height. It only changes the amount of wheel travel you get

[GetToDaChopa]

Wheel travel, if you jack the car up how far do the wheels fall. If that made any sence.

[fergie_vs]

ok so to end this topic. my ultra lows probably arnt gona get any lower after already doing about 2000kms. new shortened shocks arnt going to get me any lower. maybe cpmpressing the spring is the way to go. if anyone has done this in melbourne please let me know. i know some will say it will make them flimsy in the future and so on but no springs will last forever

[GetToDaChopa]

Do another 8000km and see how it sits, then worry about it.