Performance Cars and P Plate Offences

**HyperYellowVXSS** · 02-09-2009, 11:02 AM

Hey Guys,

Just wondering if anyone here or know of anyone particularly in NSW has been pulled up for driving a performance car preferably a V8 whilst on green P plates by the police?

If so what happened?

i understand if you are a hoon and have a severley hotted up car and you look 18 you would be more likely but in the case of one of my mates who has just bought a VYSS and still on green P plates till december this year, he is 30yrs old the car is stock and doesnt drive like a tool.

What advice would you give him as he was under the impression when he bought it that green p plates were fine and cause he is 30yrs old? Me personally i see heaps of green p platers in v8's and turbos so i thought it was okay too

I suggested to drive with the p's off the car or take the SS badges off till you get off the p plates?

any advice would be good

thanks,

Hyper

**Cobez** · 02-09-2009, 11:10 AM

Tough shit to your mate. He is a twit for buying a car he can't drive on his P's. Doesn't matter how old you are, the laws apply to those who fall under them regaurdless of age. Like it or lump it, too many people look for ways around these laws, they are put there for a bloody reason.

Tough it out until he is off his P's then he can drive whatever he wants.

**vrcalais5ltr** · 02-09-2009, 12:56 PM

true that cobez unless he got his licence before the laws were brought out he doesn't get exempted from them. no point pulling the badges off just a waste of time if hes doing it for that reason soon as a cop chucks your number plate in there computer it comes up with everything. i was driving a zj fairlane 351c round on my green ps but i never had a problem cause i got mine before the laws come in. didnt get harassed as much as i thought i would.

**Cobez** · 02-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Doubt it would apply to him, he bought a VY SS, the power to weight ratio would be over the legal limit for any P plater EXEMPT from the new laws.

He basically just bought a car that's illegal for him, or ANY P plater to drive.

**TVR-190** · 02-09-2009, 02:41 PM

and if he thinks of not putting p plates on its a fine and demerit per plate if you arent displaying them.

In which case if he was driving that car without p plates and got caught, bye bye license

**GetToDaChopa** · 02-09-2009, 03:01 PM

So bottom line is to tell your friend not drive it.

**HyperYellowVXSS** · 02-09-2009, 04:19 PM

thanks for the replies guys

hyper

**Cobez** · 02-09-2009, 04:29 PM

Or tell him to drive it, but not be suprised when the Police bend him over on the side of the road and ream him for everything he has got.

**Kernal** · 02-09-2009, 05:05 PM

6 mths loss of licence...some ppl find out the hard way lol

**Astranomical** · 02-09-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by HyperYellowVXSS

I suggested to drive with the p's off the car or take the SS badges off till you get off the p plates?

Lol taking the badges off won't do shit, it still sounds like a V8 not to mention that if they do get suspicious (which they will), its nothing for them to pull the driver over and ask to pop the bonnet. As others said, he's best off just not driving the car.

**GetToDaChopa** · 02-09-2009, 09:36 PM

Put a BIG V6 sticker on your engine, when they pop the bonnet, you're all safe.

"Nah mate, it's a v6. See it says it right there (points at the sticker)"

**06vzcalais** · 02-09-2009, 09:53 PM

look up NSW laws my brother is 27 he can drive a V8 on his green p plates theres some loophole in the law that says people over 25 are free from restriction on green p plates, this is why you se so manny older guys/girls over 25 on greens driving an 8, law may of changed this year but as of last year it was legal for my brother to drive his GTS commodore on his green P's easiest way is to consult the RTA you can apply for exsemptions my mate drives a XR6 turbo on his reds as it is a family car and only car they own he applied to the RTA for the paperwork all legit...

**Kernal** · 02-09-2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cheboorator

Put a BIG V6 sticker on your engine, when they pop the bonnet, you're all safe.

"Nah mate, it's a v6. See it says it right there (points at the sticker)"

lmfao.....

**HamaTime™** · 02-09-2009, 11:12 PM

As cobez said, tough shit to your mate. The rules are the rules, no V8's on P plates...

Don't take V8/SS badges off, because a number plate scan, a VIN check or even just opening the bonnet will give it away, so pointless there...

Don't not put your P plates up because it's 3 demerit points for not displaying them and then a further 3 for driving a high powered vehicle...

Tell him to suck it up and not drive till he's off his P's or go out and buy another car...his fault...

**Cobez** · 03-09-2009, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by 06vzcalais

look up NSW laws my brother is 27 he can drive a V8 on his green p plates theres some loophole in the law that says people over 25 are free from restriction on green p plates, this is why you se so manny older guys/girls over 25 on greens driving an 8, law may of changed this year but as of last year it was legal for my brother to drive his GTS commodore on his green P's easiest way is to consult the RTA you can apply for exsemptions my mate drives a XR6 turbo on his reds as it is a family car and only car they own he applied to the RTA for the paperwork all legit...

If that's true, then that's rediculous. Age doesn't make you more safe in a V8 at all. Experience makes you more safe in a V8. Age shouldn't have anything to do with it, P platers are P platers reguardless of age.

**Lumps of cheese** · 03-09-2009, 07:15 AM

Best advice a few posts up, contact the RTA and ask them. Probably should have done it before he bought the car though.

**sycvs** · 03-09-2009, 11:59 AM

and if car is rego to him when police are driving behind him and do rego check it will come up with v8 p plater not exempt //// they did it with my old car i had no license so police pulled it over due to check saying owner unlicensed lucky my mate was driving it

**Bravotwozero** · 03-09-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Cobez

If that's true, then that's rediculous. Age doesn't make you more safe in a V8 at all. Experience makes you more safe in a V8. Age shouldn't have anything to do with it, P platers are P platers reguardless of age.

Totally disagree. Younger people take far greater risks when driving and are also more likely to succumb to peer pressure resulting in moments of stupidity. I'm not saying driving skill (or lack thereof) isn't a factor, but I think when it comes to younger drivers, it is their lack of maturity and risk perception that gets them into trouble.

At the end of the day it doesn't really mattter what rules or regulations are in place. The world is full of stupid people and they'll continue to do stupid things.As long as they stay out of my way I don't really care.

**Cobez** · 03-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Works both ways, if someone is 30 years old with ZERO driving experience, they are a greater risk IMO.

I agree though, as long as they stay the hell away from me and my car, i don't care. But in this guys case, P plates + LS1, illegal for him to drive.

**Changa** · 03-09-2009, 09:45 PM

Also depends what the power to weight ratio is. Here in QLD any V8 is illegal but in NSW and VIC some V8 are allowed, like the VTSS? I think because its so heavy and not really as powerful as newer cars therefore its legal because of its lower power to weight ratio. Unlike the VS SS which is lighter and has a higher power to weight ratio.

**MY-42-VT** · 04-09-2009, 12:40 PM

naaah in nsw NO V8 is aloud on ya P's . . . this has confused me and dad as some of the old V8's push out as much as some V6's these days? so you figure

as for power to waight ratio..that dosn't seem right... calling a VT SS heavy? ? ... what are you compairing it too a rice burner? SS's are pretty daym light when compaired to other cars in its class... just some are lighter then others

plus i don't think i read that right...did u say the VT SS isn't really powerfull??? .... okkk we'll let you think that

**TVR-190** · 04-09-2009, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by MY-42-VT

naaah in nsw NO V8 is aloud on ya P's . . . this has confused me and dad as some of the old V8's push out as much as some V6's these days? so you figure

as for power to waight ratio..that dosn't seem right... calling a VT SS heavy? ? ... what are you compairing it too a rice burner? SS's are pretty daym light when compaired to other cars in its class... just some are lighter then others

plus i don't think i read that right...did u say the VT SS isn't really powerfull??? .... okkk we'll let you think that

VT SS is heavy if you compare it to say a VN SS, and not powerful. Well the S1 wouldnt have been with the 5l

**MY-42-VT** · 04-09-2009, 12:51 PM

yeah the older SS are lighter.. but still ... it dosn't matter, there is more power there then what a P-plater knows what to do with it

im a P-plater myself and yes im guilty of driving a V8 on my P's ( brand new VE SS at work, took it for a drive to get the oils warm for a service )

and to be honest, i shit myself when i booted it like my lil VT ecotec on the straight outta town... theres just so much power in V8's these days and its probly a good thing P-platers arn't in them

**stocky** · 04-09-2009, 12:53 PM

VTs are heavy tanks and i wouldnt be surprised if in stock form a VN V6 is quicker than a VT 304

**MY-42-VT** · 04-09-2009, 12:57 PM

really? .... cause i've been in a VN V6 and there not that crash hot?

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