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    Question Ss v6?

    Hi guys.

    just a quick one. I always assumed that all SS commodores were V8 and all S commodores were V6.
    I was looking at a couple of things on the net today and by the looks of what i saw my assumptions were wrong. could someone clear this up for me?

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    Yep i guy i went to school with has a VT SS Supercharged 6. I think his licence plate is actually VTSSV6.

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    I reckon this one will create a few arguments.

    I don't believe the SS was ever offered with anything other than a V8, and that goes back to the VN. If it has a V6, supercharged or otherwise, I think it's either an S or SV6, depending on which model you are talking about.

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    Sorry Calaber, couldn't be more wrong. (And there shouldn't be any arguments about it, its common knowledge to most in the know)


    There were VP SS V6s (sold to NZ, but i know of a few that made it back) and ALL VT SSs had the Super6 as an option. (Some more rare info, WH Granges also had the Super6 as an option)
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    funny this thread pops up, a guy at work asked me if there was any v6 ss, said his mate had one and was having problems getting insurance companies to insure it cause they never had any such this listed


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    Ah well - wrong again.

    Thanks for the correction. One question though - why would you buy one new? Obviously, not many did.

    Back to the dominoes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calaber View Post
    Ah well - wrong again.

    Thanks for the correction. One question though - why would you buy one new? Obviously, not many did.

    Back to the dominoes..
    The V6 VP SSs for NZ were apparently for a race series, although i'm not sure how accurate that is. VT Super6s, well, everyone loves beating a V8 with a V6
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    So I assume it was a VT only model. And only in Series 1?

    I'll admit this one came from left field for me. I have (obviously) never seen or heard of such a model and to be honest, it sounds like one of the dumbest combinations Holden ever offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calaber View Post
    So I assume it was a VT only model. And only in Series 1?

    I'll admit this one came from left field for me. I have (obviously) never seen or heard of such a model and to be honest, it sounds like one of the dumbest combinations Holden ever offered.
    Couldn't tell you if it was limited to series 1 or not. I'd assume it was both, considering the Super6 still ran til VY.

    Personally i think a starfire 4 powering a 1.5 tonne car is a stupid(er) combo....
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEALTHY™ View Post
    Couldn't tell you if it was limited to series 1 or not. I'd assume it was both, considering the Super6 still ran til VY.

    Personally i think a starfire 4 powering a 1.5 tonne car is a stupid(er) combo....
    We're getting off track here so I won't labour the point. The Commodore 4 was a deliberate attempt to market the Commodore when fuel prices and economy became a real issue in the early 80's and at the time, Holden didn't have a competitor for Sigma/Corona/Cortina 4 and other dross that was flooding the market at the time.

    The SS was a "balls out" sports model, marketed that way from day one.

    So why make it available with only one ball? If you wanted a Super 6 sports model, buy the S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calaber View Post
    We're getting off track here so I won't labour the point. The Commodore 4 was a deliberate attempt to market the Commodore when fuel prices and economy became a real issue in the early 80's and at the time, Holden didn't have a competitor for Sigma/Corona/Cortina 4 and other dross that was flooding the market at the time.

    The SS was a "balls out" sports model, marketed that way from day one.

    So why make it available with only one ball? If you wanted a Super 6 sports model, buy the S.
    I would personally never buy one. Unless someone could predict the future and knew the value would go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEALTHY™ View Post
    Sorry Calaber, couldn't be more wrong. (And there shouldn't be any arguments about it, its common knowledge to most in the know)


    There were VP SS V6s (sold to NZ, but i know of a few that made it back) and ALL VT SSs had the Super6 as an option. (Some more rare info, WH Granges also had the Super6 as an option)
    Right on the Grange too,there was one on carsales earlier in the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ado View Post
    Right on the Grange too,there was one on carsales earlier in the year.
    Theres less than 10 of those made (i think the number was 7), so that would be rare as a mofo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calaber View Post
    One question though - why would you buy one new? Obviously, not many did.
    My mate has one of these (VT SS V6), although he didnt buy it new. As for why you wouldn't go a V8...

    VT SS V8 5L 179kw - 1722KG -15L/100km
    Thats ~103kw/ton

    VT SS Super6 171kw - 1625KG - 13L/100km
    Thats ~105kw/ton.

    So really, its more powerful per ton, uses a lot less fuel (2L/100km) and actually pulls off the line cleaner. In fact the super6 will beat most stock Gen3s to about 50-60km/h. The supercharger gives them instant power off the line, whereas the Gen3s are a little sluggish.

    I would still have taken the V8, i love the sound. But considering the power and fuel gains, the Super6 isnt really a bad choice.

    FYI, Holden actually detuned the Super6 so it didnt overpower the V8. With a few small mods, you can easily put it over 200kw (again, we are talking stock vs stock though, i know you can mod the V8s as well)

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    Thats compared to the 5L V8. I'm sure it would be a bigger difference if compared to the LS1
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    v6 was an option on the vp ss in australia
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    Quote Originally Posted by VRSS View Post
    also were V6 VN SS's. had one come into work regularly.
    That wasn't a genuine SS. More likely a VN Formula.
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    because you would know. it was an SS. i worked at Holden and we checked it to be genuine

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