Executive models? VY/VZ

[matt_06]

Hi guys,

Im looking to buy a VZ/VY Commodore. What are the differences between these models?

Oh and whats the difference between the series 2 models and the S models and whatever?

Are all the models with the 3.6 motor the same power except different cosmetic differences

Do the executives still have the same power as the other models with the 3.6 engines?

[Grennan]

Yes the V6s will have the same power throughout all of that series models - eg same power in Execs as Calais. The exception to this is the SV6, which had slightly higher power.

The biggest difference between the VY and the VZ model is the engine (V6) . The VY has the Ecotec - a tried a true engine used since the VS. The VZ came with the Alloytec which I dont know a lot about, someone else will be able to give you an opinion on them.

[matt_06]

ok. Is there any differences between the vy execs and the vz execs beside the motor?

Also what the diff between the execs and all the other model v6's? Are they major differences? They all look the same

[Calaber]

Yes the V6s will have the same power throughout all of that series models - eg same power in Execs as Calais. The exception to this is the SV6, which had slightly higher power.

The biggest difference between the VY and the VZ model is the engine (V6) . The VY has the Ecotec - a tried a true engine used since the VS. The VZ came with the Alloytec which I dont know a lot about, someone else will be able to give you an opinion on them.

Grennan

VZ Calais had the same engine and trans combo's as the SV6.

[Grennan]

Grennan

VZ Calais had the same engine and trans combo's as the SV6.

Ah ok, so the SV6 and the Calais had the 5 spd auto whereas the other models had the 4 spd?

Anyway heres redbook, they give you a rundown on the info of the models.

VY Exec: Redbook

VZ Exec: Redbook

This is a comparison, not sure if it will work: Redbook

[_R_J_K_]

Also what the diff between the execs and all the other model v6's? Are they major differences? They all look the same

Trim level.

[Asa Spades]

Also what the diff between the execs and all the other model v6's? Are they major differences? They all look the same

Executive>Berlina>Calais
Theres big diferences between the vy/vz v6 range...body, head and tailights, interior and engine to name a few.
In regards to the executives, you will find that some vy exec's have black trim (door moulds/strips, numberplate surround and parts of the bodykit) where as the vz exec has all these parts coloured the same as the body...

[VYMAD]

VY series 2 has the same colour number plate surround as the car. Front power windows as minimum. Front light with sunglass holder, and lights in the back. Can't think of too much else just off hand. Oh and last of Ecotec, so should have ironed out all the problems by then one would hope!

[DevilDRake]

Trim level.

Tail lights xD.

the motor was mainly the update, the 175kw 3.8L in the VY, and the 3.6L In the VZ, I believe the VZ has less power but more torque, but people have split opinions on them.

[f1tzy]

the vy has a 152kw 3.8 and the 3.6 alloytec is 175

[matt_06]

Ok guys im going with a vz.

Exec vz arent too bad. Stronger motor then the vy and they have full power windows. So yeh the are good arent they?

Ill also look at berlina,equipe or even ive been seeing some nice sv6's for under $15k. So whichever car i find the best ill grab. Theres not too much of a diff between the vz models

My budgets $15k btw

[VYMAD]

Ok guys im going with a vz.

Exec vz arent too bad. Stronger motor then the vy and they have full power windows. So yeh the are good arent they?

Ill also look at berlina,equipe or even ive been seeing some nice sv6's for under $15k. So whichever car i find the best ill grab. Theres not too much of a diff between the vz models

My budgets $15k btw

All personal choice mate. I prefer the tail and headlights on the VY but eh, that's just my preference. VZ are, to the best of my knowledge a good reliable car also, so in the end it's up to you. But for 15 k you should be able to get a low klm vz, and it would want to be in near new condition IMO.

[DevilDRake]

Ok guys im going with a vz.

Exec vz arent too bad. Stronger motor then the vy and they have full power windows. So yeh the are good arent they?

Ill also look at berlina,equipe or even ive been seeing some nice sv6's for under $15k. So whichever car i find the best ill grab. Theres not too much of a diff between the vz models

My budgets $15k btw

Stronger motor? Perhaps but you definitely need them serviced every 5000k's otherwise it's blocks up of shit in the engine

[DevilDRake]

the vy has a 152kw 3.8 and the 3.6 alloytec is 175

yeah my mistake, i Kept thinking the VU was 152kw. I know the SV6 was 190, now 210, but yeah triggered my mind back xD

[feistl]

Does it have to be a VY/VZ? The Execs are crap cars in comparison....

Personally for $15k i would be getting a VX Series II Calais or SS. Although their slightly older, they'll have considerably better interior features compared to the newer exec.

For example the VX Calais has the following which a VY/VZ Exec doesnt...

Side Airbags
Traction Control
Dual Zone Climate Control (Compared to manual)
Fog Lights
CD Stacker
Leather Interior (Steering Wheel, gear knob, hand brakes, possibly seats)
Front/Rear power windows
Mag Wheels
Better Stereo system

So an older Calais/SS will hold its value for longer, have much better features making it a nicer car to drive and wont be an exec lol.

So for the same money, imo, its worth getting a higher spec'd but slightly older model as opposed to a newer base model.
Even a WHII Statesman is an option... So many extra features for the same money, and the basically use the same engine/drivetrain as the VY.

[matt_06]

Ok. What about the VY Berlina's or Equipe/Lumina's? Are they better then the Execs?.

Oh and by the way do they really need to be serviced every 5000k's?

[matt_06]

and how about the VY S models?

[feistl]

Click ME

[matt_06]

ok thanks for that. So if im going to get from the VY models it going to be the S.

[dbarnes]

hey matt its darren
there was a manual VX s pac manual at holden in kempsey with 90,000 on it for like 11 grand bud...dunno if its still there tho

[feistl]

ok thanks for that. So if im going to get from the VY models it going to be the S.

Remember, the SS, Berlina, Calais, Statesman and Caprice are all higher spec'd than the S. So if you can, save for one of these..

Comparison Here

Its all a bit tricky... but essentially its this.

Base models
Executive
Acclaim
Lumina

Sports Models
SV8
S
SS

Luxury Models
Berlina
Calais
Statesman
Caprice

(Statesman and caprice are both long wheel base versions, so technically not "VYs")

[[QLIMAX]]

Got a vz exec...I'd recommend them...heaps nicer looking than vy execs too. Had it 3 years and never done anything but change the oil once a month and a tailshaft coupling.

[sweefu]

Ok guys im going with a vz.

Exec vz arent too bad. Stronger motor then the vy and they have full power windows. So yeh the are good arent they?

Ill also look at berlina,equipe or even ive been seeing some nice sv6's for under $15k. So whichever car i find the best ill grab. Theres not too much of a diff between the vz models

My budgets $15k btw

VE omega's are coming in for 15k now mate

[matt_06]

Are VE OMEGAS good cars? Are they like the exec models of the range?

[sweefu]

The omega is the equivalent model of an executive, so basic trim and features etc but the features of a current model commodore and pretty good