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    My mate thinks that there is such thing as a cop tune on cop cars.. Like no rev limiter etc... Is this true.. Any proof is welcome..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some541 View Post
    My mate thinks that there is such thing as a cop tune on cop cars.. Like no rev limiter etc... Is this true.. Any proof is welcome..
    Put car in first gear, drive down street. If it doesnt hit rev limiter, it doesnt have one. Bet solved
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    my old vs didn't have a rev limiter and it wasn't a ex cop car. your mate is kinda dippy
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    from what ive been told,the only thing a "cop tune" is is that it revs slightly higher at idle so the battery doesnt go flat with all the extra lights, radios etc. whether thats true im not sure but ive heard of a few people saying that

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    My olds mans VX 6 cyl has a bigger alternator and doesnt idle high, but it seems to have more torque then a standard vx and i would say there is something different about it in the tune but i have no proof.

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    Think this thread has been covered time and time again. There isn't a "cop" tune. There is only different specs

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    It got the cop chip, yo. Makes a v6 go like a v8.

    Haha but seriously, no major changes.. Bigger alternator, few bits of extra wiring, extra 'interior blackout' switch.. Bout it.

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    In my VR ex cop I actually have a police ECU. Does that mean I can sell it for more?
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    There's no such thing as a "cop tune", the only mods they have is fe2 suspension and pursuit rims.

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    Well i guess people just use the name cop tune, so they don't have to explain the mods one after another.

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    i took my car down to get a dyno tune after doing some work to it and there was a cop car in the dyno and there was 3 other cars whating to get done

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog79 View Post
    i took my car down to get a dyno tune after doing some work to it and there was a cop car in the dyno and there was 3 other cars whating to get done
    Sounds like a conspiracy to me...........

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    My father is a officer in the police service and I have asked this question before he said there is no modifications done to the police cars except for suspension etc. Probably cost the service to much to get the car chipped. I think they sell them at round 60 000 to 70 000 km anyway.

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    On a similar subject..... My mate says there are horses with wings that fly around some paddock at some place I can never see.
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    For the record - some police cars are fitted with upgraded suspension (fe2) along with a modified wiring loom to cater for lights and other equipment etc. The only cars to have any performance increase were the VK series in Victoria (and some other states) which had Brock style heads and manifolds fitted. These were done at the factory and their only connection to HDT was when they pulled over a HDT product (nomatter what others try to claim).

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    i have an ex cop car, few extra options but there's no cop chip, although with the fe2 suspension and lsd diff, it does move a bit better than stock, my mates vx acclaim will sit half a car behind me from take off, and i'd gradually get further away from him, only things different about our cars then was that mine had fe2 suspension and lsd and his is all stock. So really its just as slow as his car, and think about having all the extra cop gear weighing you down those cop cars would be slow as shit. I'm just talking about the v6s here though, but i'm almost certain its the same deal for the 8s

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    Ive opened up the bin file from the chip used in the police ECU's in the BT1 police pack VSV6's,using tunerpro,(bin file-BSTH),and there was no difference in the timing maps or any other settings I looked at.I compared it to an original bin file which was from a standard VSV6. (BSTK bin file.).As far as I know,the only difference is the police ECU and its wiring is ground shielded so the police radios dont interfere with it,or so it doesnt interfere with the police radios.One or the other.Id say the police bin file being exactly the same as a standard bin file is proof theres no difference performance wise.Also just looking at it again now,It says that the high rpm fuel cutoff (rev limiter) for the police chip is at 5600 rpm,the same as the standard chip,so its not "disconnected or disabled" as far as I can tell.
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    Years ago, as Reaper said, some Commodores were modified for police Highway Patrol use. Back then, the cars were purchased by the governments specifically for police purposes. These days governments tend not to buy the cars anymore - they are leased, so modifying the cars for higher performance doesn't make a lot of sense for a couple of reasons. First, they would have to be returned to standard specification before being returned to the leasing company. That costs money, both in the fit out and the strip out.

    The most important reason they are not modified however is the fact that todays high performance Commodores and Falcons go like stink - in the 80's, they didn't. Back then, a standard carburetted V8 Commodore had the performance of a constipated camel and just about anything could outrun it so a bit of additional work was required to give the police cars the edge.

    Times have changed and today, Police don't like engaging in super high speed pursuits and they are actively discouraged by the various Forces around the country. This means that the standard cars have more than enough grunt for high speed police work and there is no justification to modify them to go any faster. And they hold a higher resale, which is beneficial to Police department budgets.

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    Yeah all I have is a special ECU that has been RFI shielded. That's the only difference to the norm in that area.
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    My greenfoam tune > your imaginary cop tune anyday

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