HSV XU6 P-Plate legal again in Vic..... Kinda
I know this might be old news but my seaching didnt bring anything up about it in the forum. P-Platers in Vic might be able to drive XU6's again legally.
I was just searhing the vicroads webite and saw that now turbo and supercharged engines less than 100KWs per tonne are legal and between 100 and 125KWs per tonne are legal if you apply for an exemption. Looking at the pdf it seems exemptions are given on the basis of if they like you or not as the criteria is vague. Must be 4 doors. Must be family not performance orinentated.
As we know the XU6 fits in the category where it must get an exemption. but whether one is given or not is the tricky part. The site does list the XR6 Turbo Manual and the WRX Manual as "examples considered to NOT meet the criteria". So it makes you think how a XU6 Auto would go.
Here is the site and the PDF file is where the quote is from.
Lower perfomance turbo or supercharged vehicles : VicRoads
I would love to get an XU6 but i think I would want the exemption before I bought the car.
has anybody heard of this or got the exemption?
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Hmmm....I suppose L67's are a bit too powerful then aren't they? I.e. a VS one, since they are lighter than VT on.
no dice i think, they make the criteria vague so they have more discretion i think.Originally Posted by LKC
plus, i dont think you can say that a hsv (even if its an auto) isnt performance orentated.
yeah after reading it i also think that an xu6 would be banned but you may be able to get a supercharged calais or statesman
i still think you'll be pushing it a bit uphill, if i was a cop (im not) i would probably say sell it and get a naturally aspirated one.
fast p plate legal cars are out there, but aren't commodores.
i know its a bit iffy. But I would hope they would allow it. Plus i think it is different from the XR6 turbo as that is top of the range but the XU6 is entry level HSV.
Old Mate. While it isnt up to the cops its upto vic roads I agree with what you say.
your saying the car you want is 'entry level HSV'. meaning it is an entry level 'Sports Vehicle'. lol i think you'd have more chance having a higher end 'standard' commodore than saying to the police 'But it's only entry level of the high performance vehicle range' LOL
might just be easier to buy a VT or VX S or Berlina and making it a replica XU6 minus the supercharger. just would end up alot pricier. I love the hsv interiors.
especially the VX/VT clubby seats.
yes you can have a l67 on your p's, my mate has the exemption on a charged vx s-pac......not sure how the HSV would go tho being the performance model. He drew a lot of attention to himself at first and the cops definantly arnt his best mates and dont rate him driving it but vic roads says you go so the cops can get .....
call up vic roads and enquire, i thought about this a while ago but ive spend too much money on my car already
VX21 its good to hear that vic roads will approve a VX S S/C. As for cop problems did the cops already have problems with your mate or was it because of the S/C?
I will call or email vic roads today and post my results.
I just know I need to get rid of my VS I dont want to invest in modding it (interior and sound system, nothing engine wise) while i know i want to get rid of it soon.
yer i wish i could get a S/C now but i think ill just wait till im off my p's and get something better again haha...but thats what your p's are about would be sick to have one!
well they didnt rate his hooning, stockies with no tread and 80mm off the ground.....his fixed it all up and drives half decent now so i guess they wouldnt care, he just carries the exemption cirt. around with him in his car incase some cop wants to be a tightass.
yer sounds good mate, look forward to hearing back
I just called Vicroads about this. If you would like a straight answer on the issue I would advise that you dont contact Vicroads as you will certainly not get one.
The answer I was given is that so long as your car is under 100KW per tonne your fine. If your car is between 100 and 125KW you need the exemption and your car must be a non-sports/ family car with sports car defined as 2 doors and/ or 2 seats 2 seats (sorry ute drivers). I think she was just reading the website.
I asked if i could get help with a particular model or even hypothetically a particular model. She refused to answer so as not to open herself up to legal issues. I then mentioned that while the XR6 Turbo fulfills the requirements that the form explicitly excludes it. She said she could not confirm and was unable to help apart from tell me the official guidelines as stated on the website as she does not process the exemptions. I asked to talk to those people and was told they do not take phone calls.
After all this I was given the advice of before I buy the car I should send in the form as a test to relate to the model of car (ie give the model not any rego/ dont make associate the form to any specific car) and if they say that that car will get an exemption then lodge the form again to get the proper exemption for the car you buy.
sorry for the rather useless post but my info was from a govt dept. usable infomation wasnt excactly readily available.
seeing I wont be ready to get a new car for around 6 months Im going to wait till then to lodge a test form and do more research.
VX21 - I think the boys in blue should leave me alone as im quite a conservative driver and dont hoon. anyway I wont get a S/C till I know i can legally drive it. just makes life easier.
gotta hate vicroads, sif they dont take phone calls thats bull if you ask me but the test form sounds like a very good idea....maybe also if you say it was your dads car .......and he is giving it to you sorta thing play a bit innocent and cant afford your own car they may be a little more lenient. because i know they can make exeptions for people who have no noice but to drive these types of cars, who cant afford one etc.
good luck with it all mate will have to let me know what happens and especially when you get it!!!!
My mate just bought 1 and he is on his Ps
R.I.P Brocky
did your mate get a S/C commie or a XU6?
s/c spac commy....would like your chances on a xu6....save your money and get the s/c and then get something better with the diff when your off your p's or do up the s/c
haha I would buy a VT Clubsport if I was allowed. I wish vic would bring in the ACT system of being able to do a driving course and then have no restrictions.
Surely educating and teaching P Platers to drive high powered cars is better than not teaching then waiting till they are off their P's to crash their high performance car.
then again I wonder if a interview system with the cops would work where ########s get ristrictions and others dont.
haha yer but they all pot heads up there and dont know what there doing lol...
thats a good idea, but there will be some politician out there who thinks he is the f***ng king and doesnt want it to happen....theres always a guy like that.
yer an education program/course over a few days as well as a special license perhaps, there are infinant options they could pursue but they just dont rate p platers
after reviewing the form I decided to see what power to weight ratio was for the BA XR6 Turbo that was mentioned. It would seem it doesnt meet the criteria because has over 125KW per Tonne. So mentioning it on the form seems really stupid as the person applying should already know it exceeds. now the only bit that worries me is the "or the sports orientated varient of a specific range". That and the exemption must be granted before the purchase of the car. tough luck if you find a bargin online or at the yards and you have to wait a week or more for the exemption to be allowed.
That said you could hardly call a XU6 the sports varient of the VX/VT HSV range its the baby. and isnt HSV technically a different company to Holden? food for thought or a smart arse statement that will get the application rejected.
it would be a lot safer to go with the s/c calais or s-pac than the HSV cause they are gonna find any way to slap a big red DENIED on the form unfortunatly
If a cop wants to book you, he will.
thats it mate, and if he cant book you for one thing he will definantly find another! only thing that could save you is if they arnt highway patrol they may not know much.
LKC this would be amazing if you could get it wow....
2001 HSV XU6 Base VX II Private Cars For Sale in VIC - carsales.com.au 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294959238 4294965530&silo=1011
yeah thats a awesome car I wish i could afford it now.
I guess they will book you for something but I would rather not drive a car that would give them something to book me for and be nice as pie to them so they dont want to book me. After stories from friends I always make sure im on my best behavior when ever i go to the western suburbs as I have been told they are tougher out there. Might also help that I'm very yes sir, no sir, to bags full sir when ever im around cops.
XU6 100% possitive
R.I.P Brocky
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