VR or better..

[GothicKidd]

Well, Since Ive bought my VR.. had nothing but problems..Ive talked to my mum about fixing it up and all.. But she thinks I should get a car like a VT or such which has luxurys and such..
I want Air con, a smoother ride, a more fuel efficient car.. ; My car has none of that..
I do like my car.. I enjoy driving it.. I only bought it because I looked it like a book.. I judged it by its cover.. and didnt car about whats inside.. Now I regret that.

What should I do..
Spend money on getting my car fixed..
or
Sell the car and buy a newer car..

[Brett_jjj]

Is it serviced regularly etc, and have you checked for any ECU error codes that might be set. Even a VT will need parts and money spent on it if you want it to stay in excellent condition and drive like new etc.One good thing about the commodores is new parts are plentiful and cheap to buy.Especially VN/VS parts.

[GothicKidd]

Is it serviced regularly etc, and have you checked for any ECU error codes that might be set. Even a VT will need parts and money spent on it if you want it to stay in excellent condition and drive like new etc.One good thing about the commodores is new parts are plentiful and cheap to buy.Especially VN/VS parts.

I had the car serviced before christmas and a i regularly check my oil and coolant and such.. Ive apparently got a Coolant leak on the intake manifold .. and that I need to replace my 'trans extension seal'..
The car has clunks in the transmission and im due for new tyres soon.. thats really my real major problems with the car..
Yeah.. I mean I could sell my car.. Buy a VT or something and have more problems..

[nathanVY]

VS and onwards is a big difference from the VR just in fuel economy, ecotec is a better engine to spend money on.

[soop]

That's like saying Syphilis is better then Aids...

[nathanVY]

That's like saying Syphilis is better then Aids...

Hahah, whats the other option?

[soop]

Can't say, people whine every time I talk sense.

But I wouldn't try chasing power from a V6 unless you go forced induction.
That said, if you MUST, there is more options for the ecotec.

[nathanVY]

Can't say, people whine every time I talk sense.

But I wouldn't try chasing power from a V6 unless you go forced induction.
That said, if you MUST, there is more options for the ecotec.

Agree 100% but I don't think the OP was talking about power, more so reliability etc.

[soop]

Well in that case, neither a VR or VS is going to solve his problem. Old cars break down, fact of life.

[nathanVY]

Well in that case, neither a VR or VS is going to solve his problem. Old cars break down, fact of life.

Yep if you want fuel economy probably best to by a fiesta LOL. A VS on gas will go for years if its looked after and great fuel.

[Calaber]

I have to agre with Soop. The VR is really getting on now, nearly 18 years old for the first Series 1's and at least 15 years old for the last Series 2's. They were an incredibly reliable and tough old bus but as they age, they need lots of TLC and increasing amounts of money to keep them at their best. If your car is basically sound, comparitively low mileage and otherwise reliable, it can be worth fixing, but if it's a basic old Exec and you want the extra gear and comfort, then a VT is a better starting point.

The problem is that the early VT's are now thirteen years old and they suffered from any number of production faults which were'nt all cured. In particular, the rear suspension was only half a job done, and it wasn't until the VX Series 2 that Holden sorted it out properly. If you can afford the extra, I would recommend nothing older than VX2, as they are reasonably priced, had most of the early VT bugs sorted and have better (ie safer) handling. A VX2 could be as young as nine years old, with plenty of good service left in it.

[Grennan]

Yeah if you are going to upgrade from a VR, the last thing I would buy is a VT as you will, in all likelyhood, go from one mind #### to another. As Calaber said, at very minimum aim for a VX series 2 for the revised rear suspension and other minor fixes.

[nathanVY]

Yeah agreed VXS2.

[GothicKidd]

Say you were in my position.. I dont have a job.. You have my car and only around $100 a fornight to spend on your car..
Would you sell the car and upgrade to say.. a VX series 2? And hope for no problems? or keep the car and upgrade parts..
Ive already had money spent on the car.. I had the whole front end suspension done... Bushes etc..

[soop]

Well if you've just spent $500 on the front end. I'd say keep it.

Look at it this way, everything you replace (properly) is one less thing that isn't going to break soon.
If you're only on low money, then any VX you buy will be a million KM jobbie.

Also, you can save allot of money doing things yourself, feel free to PM me if you need help with anything.

[GothicKidd]

Yeah, thats true. What you mean by million KM jobbie?
After attempting to replace a fuel pump with my dad.. Dont wanna try anything to big.. I think I made a simple task into getting a new tank and having the mechanics repair and the lovely fee they always have.. Plus I dont really like working under the car :\

Like.. I could sell the car and get a newer car.. and still have problems.. and prob cost more than what this car is costing me..

[soop]

I mean, any VX you can afford is going to have done allot of KMs.

Everyone makes mistakes and I can guarantee you'll make more. That's how we learn, don't be afraid to make mistakes. That said, always do your homework.

[GothicKidd]

Oh fair enough
Yeah Ive made too many mistakes I think.. Yeah

[soop]

Nah, can't make too many mistakes. Just educate yourself better.
Otherwise you're going to have a broken car and no money to fix it :P

[ari666]

sell it and buy a real car with chrome bumpers

with the change, invest in the stock market.

[illusionalvr]

just do what i did! i recieved my car as a combined birthday and christmas a few years back. i got it registered, it was a great car. great air con, cruise, fuel efficient enough, and though. 15000 kms later it had a major failure in the engine, punching a hole in the block. the bastard still ran. 5000kms later its though another engine plus the engine it has in it now.

it is a constant headache. clunk steering clunky front end, clunky diff, there isnt much that doesnt clunk. i told myself when it gets to what i paid for it, ill get rid of it. it has cost me 800 so far. i have learnt, learnt how to replace engines, patience and spending money. its like poker, good luck mate. finding a good car is very hard.

[Blown V6 Hatch]

Say you were in my position.. I dont have a job.. You have my car and only around $100 a fornight to spend on your car..
Would you sell the car and upgrade to say.. a VX series 2? And hope for no problems? or keep the car and upgrade parts..
Ive already had money spent on the car.. I had the whole front end suspension done... Bushes etc..

If I was in your position, I'd go and get a job....Problem solved.

[soop]

Assuming he's a school kid :P

[Blown V6 Hatch]

Assuming he's a school kid :P

Problem i see here soop, is that if he can't afford to maintain this car, he probably won't be able to afford to maintain any car. All cars need maintenance/repairs regardless of what car it is, it's just the nature of the beast unfortunately.

[Blown V6 Hatch]

sell it and buy a real car with chrome bumpers

with the change, invest in the stock market.

LOL, Ari, what steel bumper car can you buy that will leave you with change leftover from selling a VR? (unless it's in need of a full resto)