Got my splits now what else needed to install them?

[Helmo645]

Hey,

I got my sony xplod splits in the mail off ebay and they come with the tweeter (has about 15cm of cable coming off it), crossover and the actual speakers (have no wires). So now my question is what else do i need to setup my speakers?

Would i just hook the main speakers up to the old wires? How does the crossover come into play? I need help... i need to buy more speaker wire??

Diagrams would help

This is for a VT by the way i need instructions how to set it all up

[bogan_vk]

your original speaker wires go into the crossover input and you should have +/- terminals on the crossover for the woofer and tweeter just connect the woofer and tweeter to them ,it should clearly say where each terminal goes to on the crossover.

[Helmo645]

Hmm alright then so where abouts would i cut into the headunit output so that i can effectively mount my crossover somewhere... soudns good re the using old wires so shouldnt have to buy anymore

[bogan_vk]

depends on where you are putting your splits in front doors or parcel shelf if it the parcel shelf just mount your crossovers under the parcelshelf in the boot or if its in the front doors put them anywhere like behind the kick panels or just under the dash near the kick panels.

[Helmo645]

do the speaker cables already go all the way to under parcel shelf or would i need to wire them in and then wires all the way back to front? Might be easier in the front but unsure haha what do you think is easiest for a noob

[wraith]

Why bother with splits in rears o.O

[Helmo645]

Im not putting them in rears 0.o. Would it be best installing the crossovers under parcel shelf so that its tonnes easier when i get around to getting an amp?

[bogan_vk]

no because then you have to run longer wires to the speakers just mount your crossovers as close as possible to the front doors.

[Helmo645]

Alright cool now to open up my doors i suppose :P so i just find the audio output cable somewhere near my door and cut it and put it into the cross over and then reattach the other end coming from the speaker into it... where exactly is the wire that im cutting to put the crossover :P pics would be handy diagrams :P

[Helmo645]

Do i dont know why but i was on ebay and this auction was finishing so i just bought it so 20$ in total for a 2 channelg only 222w amp.. that fine for my sony xplod splits in the front to run off? Is this ample for these 6.5 inch splits? I will upgrade eventually but for now is that fine or all i will ever need if i use it solely for the splits? I can always get a 2nd amp to run sub when i get it i spose..

Sony Xplod Amplifier (eBay item 160558089989 end time 22-Mar-11 17:17:56 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

[DAKSTER]

with the splits... treble is highly directional, bass isnt. This is why its not so important where the subs are mounted in a car. Treble has to be aimed at you to be effective. You need to mount them on the front of the door panel, aiming at you, or on the dash. If you put them on the dash, you can aim them at you, or ideally you can aim them at the windscreen. The sound will 'splash' off the windscreen and everyone in the car should get the benefit.

[Helmo645]

Just going to use the stock positions for the tweeters and the woofer think that would be easiest and then mount crossover in the door wherever that goes.. as i said that pic or diagram would be great. And opinions on that amp?:

[DAKSTER]

If you are only going to run the front speakers off it, it will be more than enough.

[wraith]

I tried and failed to make a diagram. Once you have the cross over in your hand you will soon see how it all works out. Factory speaker wire goes into one part of the cross over then you have the wires for the speaker and wires for the tweeter.

[Helmo645]

Sounds good about the amp then may as well wait for that to arrive before i setup my sound system :P Thanks mate about the explanation of the crossover hopefully i have factory tweeters already so that the cabling already there :P

[DAKSTER]

[Helmo645]

That makes it easier thanks so the tweeter cable should already be there in the door panel? And will the crossover fit in there?

[DAKSTER]

the new xover can sit anywhere in the door that you can attach it to with some doublesided tape or a screw. If the original xover is in the door then yes use the wires, but its possible the original xover is elsewhere though and you may find it easier to lay the new wires.
If the original xover is in the door so you can get at the tweeter wiring, then you could try using the stock tweeter in combo with the new xover and woofer.. you may find you are happy with that and will save you some messing around.

[Helmo645]

Alright lad awesome will doublesided tape it somewhere in my door and will use all the old wires hopefully, thing is with this amp coming in the mail too i will wait for installing my system and will probs have to buy some speaker cable to run from the output of the hu to the amp in the boot and then wires to the crossovers in the doors..

[Helmo645]

Just pulled apart my car and turns out the spot for the tweeters is there but obviously the exectuive didnt come with them dammit... although this could make it easier for my setup of the crossover i spose laying all new wires, do i pull off the mesh stuff on the dash that covers the hole where tweeters meant to be or leave that as dust protection? Also regarding the wires I will need what will i need...

Headunit to amp- cut output cable off and instead of going to speakers now goes to boot to the amp. Is this right? If so what cable do i buy to go from there to there and is that right method.

Amp to crossovers in doors- Need wires for this too dont know what either

Crossover to woofer in door- stock wire

Crossover to tweeter- new wire dont know what to get too...

Is this all correct?

How do i go about the getting the hu output to the amp?

[Helmo645]

That is a very simplistic diagram of what im trying to explain above is that correct? So how do i get the wire from hu to amp what do i cut into etc... also how much wire will i be looking at buying for this and what gauge do you suggest? How much would this set me back. Cheers

Should ijust buy this and this would sort out all my wiring needs?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Speaker-Cable...item336613554f

or does the amp wire need to be different :S

[Helmo645]

Screw this lol seems i need heaps of cabling and installing the amp will be a bitch.. if anyone is out western victoria way and wants to help setup some speakers theres a few slabs in it for you haha!, How much does it cost to get somewhere to fit everything for me?

Although should i pickup one of these first??
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-High-Perf...item2a0ceedbb9

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BR-NEW-HI-FID...item483faaf348

or that one? are they all the same i just need something cheap that will enable me to set everything up.. looks like that second one would have enough cable to run from amp to speakers also? dont know if all kits come with this..

[DAKSTER]

The kits have all you need, but I wouldn't buy them. Something cheap just to get it all set up... then later you have to do it again? Buy a name brand at JB, Strathfield, Autobarn or Supercheap for between 30-50 bucks.

Autobarn fit stereos pretty cheaply, even cheaper if you buy the system from them, but they will fit your outsourced stuff for a price. Assuming the speakers fit easily, its not a complicated job and just about any installer should be able to whack in the speakers and amp for $100.

You may save some bucks on that if you install the tweeters in the dash first, just running the cables down into the doors and leaving them there. If the tweeters fit with the mesh in place, leave it there. You can probably remove the base of the tweeters to make them fit in better. If they don't, then put them on top of the mesh on their bases, and just drill a hole through the mesh large enough to run the wiring thru. Gotta look better than 2 holes in the dash.

If you only intend using that amp for the front speakers, fit it under the front passenger seat... BUT if you plan on installing more amps for rear speakers or subs later.. mount it in the boot.. but lay duplicate sets of cables while you are doing it. Save having to run more cables later, and if you are going to install a sub then you are definitely going to need an amp in the boot. If you have it installed.. discuss this option with the installer.

The wiring for the splits is usually all included in the box. You simply hook up the wires from the amp or head unit to the xover, and all the other wiring is provided. There should be 2 sets of wires, one from xover to tweeter and one from xover to woofer. There is a 3rd set of connections on the xover for signal, from the head unit or amp. Better to use the new wiring rather than the old, it will be heavier gauge and handle much more power. The original wires will be painfully thin, designed to carry 50w of power maybe rather than the 100w you plan on pushing through it. If you are missing some of this wiring, you will need to buy it I guess, but it should be in the box with the splits. If you need to buy it, just tell the salesperson you want some mid range quality speaker wire. I would suggest $2/metre is about what you should pay for decent quality without going overboard.

As far as plugging the amp into the head unit, there are 2 options. If yours is a modern head unit, especially if its aftermarket, it will have RCA connections in the back which come from the pre-amp built into the head unit. (To find out, you need to see the back of the unit, or get its model number and google it. Otherwise, hopefully someone on this forum will answer that question.. does a VT have RCAs on the stock head unit?).

This is the best option, and the kits you are looking at you will see have RCA cables included for this purpose. Some head units will have many RCA outputs, for front and rear speakers, and an RCA subwoofer output.

If your head unit hasn't got that, then you will need to use the alternative solution of running the speaker output wires to the amp. The amp will have connections available for either method, but the RCAs are the way to go if your head unit has them.

If I can make a small suggestion.. most modern cars have enough power in the head unit to run 4 speakers quite adequately. You can use your original wiring, and just install the speakers as we have discussed, not using the amp. You will still have plenty of volume, but better clarity with the aftermarket splits. Then buy a single 200W 8" boxed sub, and use the amp for that.

I am currently using a Sony head unit with Pioneer 6.5 inch splits front and rear, and I have a single boxed 8" sub in the boot with 160W amp running it, and the sound is pretty damn good for not a lot of money.

[Helmo645]

Thanks so much dakster you are a LEGEND! Helped out so much and answered any questions i had or would have had cheers for that . Will do your suggestion of using just my hu to power the splits and get a 8" boxed sub for the amp. That way I think i will be able to hook up all the cabling for the splits as all i will need to do is attach wire to tweeter and feed it down door through that boot thing to my xover that will be in door then use the stock wire for the woofer doesnt sound too hard haha.

Thanks so much for that awesome help for all this I had no idea before now i think im starting to get it haha