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    Exclamation Having tune after changing cats? If not $10,00 fine??

    Hey guys,
    Just had extractors, cats (200CPSI) and twin 2 1/4" put in my car and a mate said that if im ment to get a dyno after i change the cats coz they need to meet epa standards and if i get caught i could get a $10,000 fine.
    Anyone know anymore on this?
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    Has anyone ever been fined $10,000 for having no cat, gutted cats, external wastrgates npt plumbed back into exhaust etc. Or is it a myth?

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    I did some research and the fines under current legislation and regulations are for...

    Victoria - 20 penalty units ($220)
    NSW - 200 penalty units ($22,000) for an individual. 400 penalty units ($44,000) for a company.

    These are maximum penalties for vehicles not reaching EPA standards.
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    ...and youd be hard pressed finding someone that will fine you without first telling you to go get it sorted.

    Overall its bullshit. I really dont see how a tune is going to all of a sudden make the cats perform in a different way. They either work or they dont.
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    You will need to have some sort of receipt for a diagnostics check at least to cover the warranty on the cats. The cat manufacturers want evidence that what ever caused the first cats to fail has been rectified or it may contribute to the new cats failing prematurely. Even if they are fitted purely for noise or flow, if they do fail in the first 12 months (however unlikely that may be) your warranty on them will be voided unless you can provide evidence of a diagnostics check that states no faults found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFish View Post
    Hey guys,
    Just had extractors, cats (200CPSI) and twin 2 1/4" put in my car and a mate said that if im ment to get a dyno after i change the cats coz they need to meet epa standards and if i get caught i could get a $10,000 fine.
    Anyone know anymore on this?
    Thanks!
    Victorian EPA regs prohibit any alteration of a manufacturers ecu so you are in effect breaking the law by a dyno tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    Victorian EPA regs prohibit any alteration of a manufacturers ecu so you are in effect breaking the law by a dyno tune.

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    Yes you can tune an OEM ECU, this taken directly from the EPA regs :

    Non-original electronic chips or computers, whether
    fitted as a direct replacement or in a ‘piggy-back’
    configuration, are not permitted to be used in an
    engine management system unless it can be
    demonstrated that their installation and use allows
    the vehicle to meet the appropriate ADR. They must
    also be sealed or otherwise constructed so as not to
    be reprogrammable.

    Says nothing about reprogramming an OEM ECU.
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