Max Tyre Width?

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Some of you may or may not know that my car used to belong to the boys in blue. This means the Enforcers (Which I STILL need to get centre caps for >.>) are supposed to have 225/60r15's on them, which in my opinion, look pretty fat... But then I remember the Tiger Paw 245/60r15's that used to be on my Valiant, and instantaneously made a very sticky mess in my pants. (Lonely Island anyone?).
Then I saw this:

BFGoodrich RTA 15 inch tyre 275/60/R15 suit mag wheels | eBay

And I Jizzed in my pants! Please stop acting like your not impressed... Ok Ill stop now.

So, question time (you probably could have skipped all the crap I wrote and just read this part but whatever, its written now... I should probably spell check it).

What's the Maximum width tyre I can put on my VX Commodore without the tyres scraping against crap when I turn the wheel...

I really want them... They are sexy... And the white lettering? Sexy... Very sexy.

Oh! I also ordered a JC sticker from Tuff Stickers! So will po... Oh that has nothing to do with anything. Ill finish now. Thanks in advance!

[HoldenManDan]

Depends what rims you want to run. Keeping the interceptor 15x7's, im not sure what will physically fit on the rim. 245 would probably be the widest you would want to go, and if it exists in the right dimensions to fit your rim, you would want 245/55/15. Traditionally though, tread widths this wide are usually run on bigger rims which are also 8" wide. If you can't fit such a tyre on your 15x7's you could perhaps consider getting them widened to 8" from places like Morton & May down here in sydney.

hope this helps

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Woah! didn't even take into consideration the Depth of the Rim, just figured... 15Inch rim was a 15 inch rim... I might just end up going 225/60r15 like was on the inteceptors when the Blue had it... But thicker would be very nice.

Thanks mate.

[HoldenManDan]

Nope, the police interceptor rims (original silver) are 15" by 7" wide (and originally run 225/60/15), unlike regular "stockies" which people do paint silver, but are only 6" wide (and run 205/65/15).

Actually there is something you can do, the VE interceptors will fit 245 wide tyres which do look tuff, but they are a 16" rim. You'll need to get the centre machined out of them to fit though. But then there is the offset to consider which may mean you have scrubbing issues on the insides of the wheel wells in the back and struts in the front.

Just putting more ideas out there.

Dan

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Yeah pretty much if I have to mod anything, I will just go the 225/60's. Which look tuff anyway. I have one still as my spare. Got it out today.. Is a beautiful thing And if I get BF Goodrich, then I can have the white writing on them as well, which I personally thing looks awesome.

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Looking at that ebay link, the 255's will fit on a rim 7 - 9 inches wide... However I would need to check for rubbing against guards and such

[Kruza]

225/60 R15 on the front, and 235/60 or 255/50 R25 on the rear...
BUT, to run the 235-245-255 rears, you WILL need to get ur speedo recalibrated. [cog/gear inside box to correct ur electronic speedo/ ecu]. best bet, and something i had done to my old Vn sedan, VP wagz, and now VS acclaim[irs] just run 225's all round as no rubbing anywhere.. ill be runnin 235/60 on the rear of mine, only cause i do highway runs all the time [ hence living in emerald and workin at moura 3hrs away, and driving to brissie every month {2000km round trip}]. you must remember, anymore than 13mm more than the Overall Diameter of the FACTORY SIZED TYRE, calls for those lovely orange tickets that the Blue Man Group absolutely love to hand out to us modifiers... just be wary when you make ur choice of tyres and sizes k...

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

So, in a round about way of saying it: Get 225's all round :P That is probably the best way to go, as I think bigger at the back and smaller at the front (Like I have now) is vomit... Last thing I want is rubbing...

Thanks for all your help

[Kruza]

no worries mate..
it is easier, and cheaper to run the same size all round, and to save rubbing issues...

225's should be from 80-150 each.. get a good brand, but if ya intend of smokin them, get SAVA brand.. from Beaurepaires.. cheap, and nasty to boot..lol

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Where can you pick em up for $80? I paid $89 for my 205/65's >.<

I thought they would be heaps more expensive then 150.. Those BF Goodrich ones are $200 of ebay inc freight >.<

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

SS-657 - OnlineTires.com

$62... Don't know what freight is going to be though. But thats cheep... Just have no idea about tyre brands >.<


edit:
Estimated Shipping Rates For This Product To: 2350
(4) 225/60-15 FEDERAL SS-657 96H BSW
Price: $246.52 for 4

On Site Pickup - $0.00

Almost cost more for shipping then the tyres x.X

[wraith]

The difference between 205 and 225 is a whopping 2 cms. The price difference between the two does not warrant putting the wider tires on. To be honest I ran 205's on my interceptor rims and was more then happy with it less sidewall bulge etc. I would be cautious about purchasing tires online because the tire shop you take them to get fitted won't be too pleased as you can imagine and might end up more expensive for fitment and what not. I had Triangles which I had fitted and balanced for $75 each.

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Thats the thing though. I'm not happy with it on there. And every time I look at it it makes me sad. And I can feel the difference in the tyres Its not nice

[wraith]

I call bs on you feeling 2 cm's of difference. What you want is less sidewall bulge at the end of the day which the 205's have. Believe me or don't believe me any tire shop not just chasing your money will tell you your wasting your time spending more money on 225's on a 7 inch rim.

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

I don't want less sidewall bulge, I want more. Don't want gay looking skinny tires on my car, I want fatter tyres on them. And the difference of two CM can be quite allot, especially when its the dynamic of a tyre. 205/65 is going to warp more then 225/60. Is the difference going to be massive? no, noticeable: definitely. Otherwise tyre ratings would pretty much be pointless.

[wraith]

Wait hang on your saying 205 will warp more. You don't want sidewall bulge. I suggest you do some research mate.

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Warp, as in move/buckle under pressure. Its a thinner longer tyre, or course its going to buckle more then a shorter fatter tyre, that's just basic physics.

[wraith]

Warp, as in move/buckle under pressure. Its a thinner longer tyre, or course its going to buckle more then a shorter fatter tyre, that's just basic physics.

I really hope one of the sponsors who sells tyres will set you straight. It's basic maths a 7 inch rim is 177.8mm across. A 225 is obvious 20 millimetres bigger then 205. Do you see Ferraris and such with massive bulging sidewalls? No you do not. Do you know why? It's because the less sidewall bulge you have the less flex you have which in turn makes for more control.

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

You are going to have more control with 225/60r15's then 205/65r15's, More grip, better handling.

But thanks for your input! It's very much appreciated!

And lol @ the comment with Fezzas: they have low profile wheels...



Please explain where tire bulge could possibly exist? But don't explain it to me, explain it to yourself

[wraith]

OK this is my last post because you have no clue and are as stubborn as a mule. In the ideal situation you don't want side wall bulge at all. I never said Ferrari has side wall bulge. 2cm's will make bugger all difference on the street and the trade off is the sidewalls will be less stiff and the tire will move more as your corner. I honestly don't know how I can put it any easier for you to understand.

[GEN3RATD]

tubs and a shortened 'diff and you can have whatever you like.

[HarmlessMuffinMan]

Yeah I don't have that kind of money to poar into it

A member suggested that I just get a nice set of 17's with low profiles on them... But I kinda wanted to keep the 'ex-copcar'ness of it... Now I dont know

no worries mate..
it is easier, and cheaper to run the same size all round, and to save rubbing issues...

225's should be from 80-150 each.. get a good brand, but if ya intend of smokin them, get SAVA brand.. from Beaurepaires.. cheap, and nasty to boot..lol

Where can I get these prices? xD I neeeeds to know