should leaners be aloud to tow?
Maybe not straight away maybe after a certain amount of hours or after a simple driving test... What do u think?
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Most full licence people shouldn't be allowed to tow. I work next to a fantastic furniture shop, and you should see the idiots who either totally #### it up 100 times, or get the people who work at the shop to do it for them. There should be a trailer driving test, and put it in the little conditions part on your licence to say that you are allowed to tow. It really shits me.
Rolling on stockies
I learnt to tow on my L's out on the backroads dont kno if i was aloud or not but good way to learn and came in handing with my job glad i learnt. alot better then just having a go without being shown
Yes it should be an additional test. Even if I would resent the obligatory $x administration fee.Originally Posted by aaronevolution
Absolutely a separate test and qualification. Watch the grey nomads with their $150k caravans trying to get them anywhere. Watch the young people with box trailers trying to park at the dump. I'm not saying I'm fantastic but have plenty of room to practice without causing damage.
No, but if the NSW laws made sense you should just not be let loose on your reds, really you should have to have a fully licenced driver with you if they had half a brain when the wrote the laws but im not complaining.
Band
Shouldn't go out of your way to tow on L's, but if your work requires it then why not.
Take it out/Take it Back
Learn to spell, then learn to tow.
Now w/Phreddied Dash
As said before, there should be a test to make sure you are competent to tow. There's a heavy vehicle test (which can be classified as being over ~6-7m?), why do people think a car with a trailer is still the same as a car? Car handles totally different, requires a much greater driver skill and puts totally different conditions on the driver. Thus, another test should be required.
However I learnt to tow very early into my P2's (when it was legal). I did have dad with me every time though, who's been towing for 30 years +.
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Exactly. Especially braking. A trailer loaded with 500+kg of stuff isn't going to stop in the same distance your car normally would.
If you cant back it up, you shouldnt be allowed to drive it. If you cant pick it up, you shouldnt be allowed to ride it. If you havent been taught how to tow, you shouldnt be licensed to tow.
Even getting past the lack of ability to park it, a 500kg trailer changes everything about how your car stops, steers and corners.
I dont think its legal to tow on 'L's is it? As for "if your work requires it then why not." , because you are an L plater who would be lucky to get to drive at all, certainly wouldnt be required to, and certainly wouldnt be required to tow a trailer.
Learn to shut the #### up because some people have a reading and writing problems
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I think he was referring to the spelling of 'u' instead of 'you'. Which isn't a reading or writing problem.
Hi All,
I am a Marine Mechanic, all I do day in and day out is fix trailable boats. Inevertably this involes me towing.
I totally agree that there should me a extra additional practical assement for people who wish to tow.
On the other hand, I also STRONGLY believe that in your normal driving assesment, there should be a segment on how you, as a car NOT towing, should behave around a car that IS towing. Countless times I have come to a set of red lights, a 2.5ton boat in the rear view, judged the distance and how much force to apply to the brakes to allow me to come to a gradual, comfortable stop. Then whats this, some complete D*CK HEAD has cut into my lane, infront of me so that he can be the first away from the lights! Have had a lot of close calls as well as other instances.
Regards,
Luke.
Last edited by Turismo; 17-08-2011 at 12:19 AM.
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^^ agreed.
I drive a 4.5ton truck and get the same thing.
sexy beast
+1
go drive a truck then. i haven't but a few in my family have and have been brought up not to cut in on trucks
I also drive a heavy trailer at times and understand the changes that take place
Carpark Mechanic.....
Most people can't tow with full licences.. I completely agree with above that people should have to pass a towing test...
When I was a learner, I did tow a trailer once, but this is because ive been driving & reversing trailers on my farm since age 12..
Its ridiculous that learners are allowed to drive a light trucks (up to 4.5t) also..
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Band
i thought you WERE 12???? LOL j/k mate
easy to back a trailer
1. Both hands on bottom of wheel
2. Move hands in the direction that you want the trailer to go..eg trailer to the left "hands move anti-clock wise" up the left side. for right hand "hands move clock wise" up the right side
this has worked for me on a single axle 8x5 full of firewood
no i dont think they should ,most learners have enough trouble driving what happens if they tow something like a car trailer or something with a bit of weight in it and their car has bugger all brakes because of it, accident waiting to happen.
I think they should definitely be allowed to tow.
The best time to learn has gotta be with an experienced driver beside them. I do agree with an extra test to tow because I personally never learnt how to back a trailer so if it was part of the driving test to get your P's I would have had an experienced instructor to teach me the ins and out. Im 25 and I've only towed once when I hired an 8x5 for a 200km round trip. Driving it was a piece of piss even in traffic, but I could not back it up to save my life. I knew in theory what I was meant to be doing but I was useless at it. It's definitely a skill that should be part of the standard driving test
Mucca Mad Boys
Lol at the part where you said experienced driver beside them, most of those "expirenced drivers are fkn useless.
I towed a few times on my l's, taught myself to reverse at the tip, ( when it was quiet ofcourse) and never had an issue. In the act i think its legal for leaners to tow up to about 800kg? Driving on the road with a trailer, really isnt that much differant, obviously you have to leave a bigger gap, brake earlier wider turning circle etc. Im only talking about smaller box trailers like 6X4's no car trailers or anything
I disagree, most experienced drivers are pretty switched on and more than capable of passing on experience to others. Only a tiny minority of drivers are "fkn useless" in my humble opinion.
sexy beast
i do drive a truck lol
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