Lowered Ute Defective

[Ps n Utes]

Sup all, got pulled up last night after having had my ute lowered for 3 months now and got a $100 fine for it being too low...

It measured at 80mm to the lowest part of the exhaust at the rear with approx 150kg load in the tray, empty tank and only myself in the car. So I was way under the max load requirement in the first place.

I'm running the sssl king springs with monroe GT short shocks and I definately can't bring myself to change back to the stock suspension or go for something like ssl or higher. Does anyone have a suggest for changing the exhaust in any way to bring the height under the car up above 100mm?

It doesn't seem too hard but I'm not quite sure how to go about it would appreciate some feedback, cheers.

[GothicKidd]

I took out the Insulators in mine and Mine dropped down to 80mm.. So if you dont have the Insulators you could get some and it should bump it up to the legal limit

[TVR-190]

Take out the 150kg in the tray?

[Ps n Utes]

Haha unfortunately TVR its not that simple.

The legal requirements for it to pass is for the lowest part on the car to be 100mm above the ground under a FULLY loaded car which inclused 500kg in the tray, 2 passengers and a full tank of fuel.

The cops also told me that the new law for lowering coming out states that it must also be above 100mm when you have a flat tyre.

[Grennan]

Haha unfortunately TVR its not that simple.

The legal requirements for it to pass is for the lowest part on the car to be 100mm above the ground under a FULLY loaded car which inclused 500kg in the tray, 2 passengers and a full tank of fuel.

The cops also told me that the new law for lowering coming out states that it must also be above 100mm when you have a flat tyre.

Total bullshit.

The rule is, it must be 100mm fullen laden. If its not fully laden at the time of testing, it doesnt matter. You can take as much weight out of it as you want then go get it tested. The testers arent going to chuck 500 kilos of concrete in the back.

[Ps n Utes]

Dude I'm not bloody stupid, if the police wanted to they can by law require my vehicle to be tested fully laden and if, which my vehicle is, sits right on 100mm or just above while empty they can immediately tell that any weight put in the back whether it be 50kg or more, will lower the car under the 100mm restrictions.

They have the right to load my vehicle with 500kg if required by police with 2 people in the car and have my car filled with fuel to be tested. If the vehicle does not pass the requirements it will be deemed unroadworthy.

Check your facts before posting things like that mate. I wouldn't waste my time asking for suggests on exhaust mods when I could just empty my tray. Yes I may be able to get away with riding at a tad over 100mm on an empty load but my tray ALWAYS has at least 100kg of work gear in it.

The fact that I'm currently sitting JUST above 100mm with an empty load, full tank of gas and myself inside means I must mod my car to make it suit or change the suspension again which as I said above I'm not going to do.

Sorry to the rest of you for the rant and please keep posting if you have any other info that may be useful on exhaust mods. I'll try put some pictures up of the parts of my exhaust that are 'too low' to give you a better idea of what I'm chasing, cheers.

[Ps n Utes]

I took out the Insulators in mine and Mine dropped down to 80mm.. So if you dont have the Insulators you could get some and it should bump it up to the legal limit

Thanks Gothic but I'm unsure of the insulators your referring to can you give me a better idea? Cheers.

[Dr HaxZaw]

Dude I'm not bloody stupid

no your right obviously because for the exhaust to be legal it has to use all the original mounting points of the factory exhaust (at least thats how it was last i heard)... and then even if you get your 20mm that you need your car was barely loaded so i think your gonna need about 50mm for when it fully loaded in which case youll have other points lower than the exhaust

your running sssl springs and you want to get it legal while carrying load?? either do what some do and just change your springs everytime you get a defect and then switch them out or buy airbags

and also ive had mates defected for cars too low and they have never been required to fully laden their car... so just take some useful advice from people rather than trying to make yourself look smart when your whole thread reeks of stupidity

[Ps n Utes]

Here are the pics from under the rear of my car. You can see the pipes that are very low (currently sitting 80mm off ground) which can move up and down and have black rubber mounts which seem to be either holding them in place or just supporting them.



Is there possibly a mod to do with these mounts and the movement allowed with those pipes that can raise them? Is there any particular reason that anyone knows as to why they sit that low?

[VYMAD]

Why lower a ute that much in the first place? Utes are designed to take loads = stock or heavy duty springs/shocks.
Then you won't have any problem with the law.

[Ps n Utes]

Why lower a ute that much in the first place? Utes are designed to take loads = stock or heavy duty springs/shocks.
Then you won't have any problem with the law.

Thanks mate, I have it lowered because I prefer the aesthetics I didn't like the jacked up look. Its a personal preference.

To me I can obviously see the exhaust can be raised at rubber locators mentioned above I'm just wondering if anyone has done this before or knows a bit more about it.

[Ps n Utes]

no your right obviously because for the exhaust to be legal it has to use all the original mounting points of the factory exhaust (at least thats how it was last i heard)... and then even if you get your 20mm that you need your car was barely loaded so i think your gonna need about 50mm for when it fully loaded in which case youll have other points lower than the exhaust

your running sssl springs and you want to get it legal while carrying load?? either do what some do and just change your springs everytime you get a defect and then switch them out or buy airbags

and also ive had mates defected for cars too low and they have never been required to fully laden their car... so just take some useful advice from people rather than trying to make yourself look smart when your whole thread reeks of stupidity

Mate be my guest and point out the useful information on modifying my EXHAUST so that it sits higher. All I've gotten so far is posts mostly from pricks like you telling me to change my suspension which is unnesessary. Please stop trying to troll my thread will garbage responses which have nothing to do with my initial question.

Sorry to the people who have actually given positive responses thanks guys.

[rx2_freak]

will your standard exhaust get you above the 100mm limit? if it does, got get flanges welded on the standard cat back to suit your new exhaust and change it over when/if you need to

Or another one is, go and speak to the blokes who did your exhaust and ask them if there is a way to tuck it up closer to the body.

Can you post a pic of your ute smashed on it guts

[hakhawk]

id be looking at getting the mounts on the exhaust pipe moved to the bottom, and hope theres clearance everywhere else for it to move up that high.

go outside, stick the car on stands, take the rubber bushes off and jack the exhaust up. make sure its going to lift high enough for your liking.

[slow vs]

buy some polly bags they go inside the springs and you just pump em up when you have a load

[Zeussy]

Dude, first of all, LOL @ you. Seriously, don't go getting your skirt in a twist. Effectively what you're asking is "how do I break the law, then get away with it."

To have a legally lowered vehicle you must retain 2/3rds of the original suspension travel. SSSL do not do this. Thus illegal. Thats why you're getting the responses you are getting.

There's no real tips to modding the exhaust mounts, you just do it.

Either bend them down (the ones on the exhaust) or bend them up (the ones on the car).
Or cut the mounts off the pipes and re-weld them around in a better location.

That will lift the exhaust up a bit. But it could also cause the exhaust to rub on the rear cross member under load/cornering etc.

[Ps n Utes]

will your standard exhaust get you above the 100mm limit? if it does, got get flanges welded on the standard cat back to suit your new exhaust and change it over when/if you need to

Or another one is, go and speak to the blokes who did your exhaust and ask them if there is a way to tuck it up closer to the body.

Can you post a pic of your ute smashed on it guts

Thanks for the advice mate I'll give my local exhaust shop a call on Monday and see what they can do, just wanted to see if anyone had any similar problems so I could get a better idea of what I'm up against.

I'll put some pics up of my ute soon.

[Ps n Utes]

id be looking at getting the mounts on the exhaust pipe moved to the bottom, and hope theres clearance everywhere else for it to move up that high.

go outside, stick the car on stands, take the rubber bushes off and jack the exhaust up. make sure its going to lift high enough for your liking.

Thanks mate i'll check that out.

[Ps n Utes]

To have a legally lowered vehicle you must retain 2/3rds of the original suspension travel. SSSL do not do this. Thus illegal. Thats why you're getting the responses you are getting.

There's no real tips to modding the exhaust mounts, you just do it.

Either bend them down (the ones on the exhaust) or bend them up (the ones on the car).
Or cut the mounts off the pipes and re-weld them around in a better location.

That will lift the exhaust up a bit. But it could also cause the exhaust to rub on the rear cross member under load/cornering etc.

Yeah I see what your saying there mate, I'll do a bit more research see if I can find out anything else but I'll definately be talking to my local exhaust shop tomorrow about it, was just after some extra advice before then.

[GothicKidd]

Spring Insulator is a rubber piece that fits in and helps hold the spring..
Looks like:


Alot of people lowering there cars do it.. If you have that.. then I'd suggest getting a new set of springs.. Go down to a suspension place and ask them if you could get a more street legal spring...

[VYMAD]

Grabs pop corn, coke and chips and sits back to watch the up coming entertainment!!!....

[spacattack]

Haha unfortunately TVR its not that simple.

The legal requirements for it to pass is for the lowest part on the car to be 100mm above the ground under a FULLY loaded car which inclused 500kg in the tray, 2 passengers and a full tank of fuel.

The cops also told me that the new law for lowering coming out states that it must also be above 100mm when you have a flat tyre.

thats bullshit!!!!!!!!!! who the hell can afford a full tank of fuel these days hehe

[Krilnik]

Spring Insulator is a rubber piece that fits in and helps hold the spring..
Looks like:


Alot of people lowering there cars do it.. If you have that.. then I'd suggest getting a new set of springs.. Go down to a suspension place and ask them if you could get a more street legal spring...

A lot of people do what??

[Jonno]

A lot of people do what??

put spring insulators in their car..

[hakhawk]

thats bullshit!!!!!!!!!! who the hell can afford a full tank of fuel these days hehe

*falls over backwards* where the hell did you spring from spacattack, havent seen you for ages!!