SILVERFOX
Anyone been defected for no engine cover?
Well, it seems pretty popular now for many of us to remove our Ecotec engine covers and polish the intake manifold (plenum).
I've been told by a guy at work and have also read on this forum more than once that removal of the engine cover is defectable.
OK, so, have any of you members been defected for it? Or been warned by the cops to put it back on?
We know that these covers only trap heat and many of us prefer the polished plenum look.
Not really asking for opinions, just whether you have been or know of someone that has recieved a defect.
'Ah well, I suppose it had to come to this.'
Compulsive.
Cops will defect you if they want to defect you... You could have a showroom car and still get defected because the officer is in a bad mood.
VY's and anything else with an Ecotec for that matter is now old enough to have a bunch of things able to be picked on... Bushes, wiper blades, leaks... the list is endless...
Don't drive like a twat in a mangged 6 and you should be fine.
There is no such thing as stupid questions, Only stupid people.
Kicker - Livin' Loud :)
Ahk I've never heard of being defected for no engine cover. But as Ben said if they wanna get you they will
Originally Posted by some_guy
SILVERFOX
Yes I know if they wanna get you they will, My question is "Has anyone BEEN defected?"
And if so, was that the only defect or one of a long list of other things. My VY has virtually nothing defectable, so I want to know if the cops really ARE defecting this no engine cover rubbish.
'Ah well, I suppose it had to come to this.'
Take it out/Take it Back
I fail to see under what criteria they would class the vehicle for being defective for having no dress cover on it. It's not a kevlar blast shield
SILVERFOX
Apparenly it's to do with fire; if a fuel line let go under the cover then the cover would stop fuel spraying through the engine bay, or some shit like that. Whatever the reasons are, I've heard/read that it's a defectable "mod" LOL.I fail to see under what criteria they would class the vehicle for being defective for having no dress cover on it. It's not a kevlar blast shield
'Ah well, I suppose it had to come to this.'
Evil is always around you
I could be really wrong here, so please correct me people... however, I would love to see where, in any state, the "RULE" that the above relates to.
Unfortunately bacon will always find something to defect you if they really want to... it's just bad luck if you come across a carnt like that.
If the police want to hassle you over trivial things like an engine cover not being fitted,then just let the coppers do what they like at the time,then choose to take it to court and argue it out there instead.Ive seen a fair few coppers go as weak as water once they are up in court trying to argue their case,so you stand a better chance of beating or getting the fine or defect overturned..I look at it this way because it doesnt matter what you say to the coppers at the time of the fine/defect,they will still fine/defect you no matter what,it might just be because you are a p plater,or maybe they just dont like the look of you or whatever,it doesnt really matter,but usually you wont change their mind if they are set on giving you a defect or fining you,so just take it to court.
Donating Member
uhh, i really dont think you can get defected for it. i have a factory LPG VE alloytec and the engine covers dont fit....
Like a pig in kaakaa
a brand new wrx can be defected due to its kit.
Cops can be tards if they have had to deal with tards a lot.
Some cops are also just tools.. especially traffic cops
Thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard
SILVERFOX
Yeh, well as I said I'm led to believe it is defectable. Although it would really suck to cop one for no engine cover!!!!!!
So far no one has given a response that "Yes I was defected for this" so maybe it isn't illegal.
'Ah well, I suppose it had to come to this.'
Nil Bastardo Carborundum
Hey VYMAD
I realise you asked if anybody has ever been defected for deleting the cover, so sorry for posting with an irrelevant response.
If a cop wanted to defect you, he would have to have a valid and legal reason for doing so. The engine cover on the Ecotec doesn't cover any moving parts apart from the serpentine belt and alternator pulley, so removing it doesn't really expose any dangerous conditions which could place a person at risk whilst working on the engine. (After all, the rest of the serpentine belt and other pulleys are fully exposed so why would the section under the cover be any different?) The purpose of that cover is twofold - 1. Aesthetics (looks) and 2. Sound dampening. (the sound deadener underneath is also a heat mat to protect the cover from heat damage, but the combination of the cover and the deadener would reduce engine noise a little bit. Those sorts of things matter these days).
So, if anybody was booked for removing the cover, it would be very difficult for police to justify doing so if you appealed at court or made written representations. The law is stricter these days and there are variations in laws between the States, but, in my humble opinion, getting booked for deleting the engine cover on an Ecotec would be as sensible as getting booked for taking the chromed extension off the end of your exhaust.
^^^^ some should get booked for the exhaust tips they put on
L337
Yes I have been defected for it , wasn't the main reason I got the a Defect, but he pointed it out and wrote it down on the form ...
the engine covers used on Ecotec's and LS engines are purely used for asthetic reasons and to supress engine noise.
all defects that are issued, are issued under the Vehicle Safety Standard regulation/AIS Code of Practice. Unless the removal of an engine cover breaches a section of these documents (which to my knowledge it doesn't) then it can't be issued.....
smooth moderator
did you put one back on to pass it?
Tells it like it is.
Not sure a plastic cover will make any difference what so ever if a fuel line under high pressure (ie efi) lets go. Atomized fuel is a recipe for a car burned to the ground either way. I can't see why the absence of a engine cover would be detectable either. I call urban myth on this one.
Reaper
Turbo L98 FTW
My silver ute failed a blue slip due to having no engine cover.
Tells it like it is.
How is that?? Are you saying that Subaru are selling a car that does not comply with Australian Design Rules??? I'd be amazed if that were the case. I'm no fan of the police but c'mon - in my experience cars get defects for a 100% valid reason.
Reaper
Tells it like it is.
On what grounds??? Or just because the RWC guy said so??? (I wouldn't bother arguing either but am interested to know)
Reaper
smooth moderator
Tells it like it is.
Lol - that attitude is rarely going to end well with the police weather cars are involved or not. That said, they do have to have something to base the report on.
Reaper
This is a bit offtopic but i was driving my mum's VZ and got randomly pulled up and got a fine/defect for having no water in the windscreen wash...im always extra nice to the officer's but after i recieved the fine/defect i said to the officer, dont you think its a bit silly to get a fine/defect for simply having no water in my bottle? at the time i told a bit of a fib and said as i was driving earlier i cleaned my windscreen and used the last of the water that was left and havent had a chance to fill it up but he just litterly said mate its the law and walked off...
In my opinion its really sad that in my town the cops have noting better to do than to pick on people just for running out of window water, must haave needed to get the points up, It just goes to show that no matter what, if the cops need to get the points up they will do whatever they need to so i guess if one officer actually knows anything about the engine cover then i guess you will get the defect... but cops around here know absolutly nothing about cars to the point they have to ask you weather the side indercators on the VX are standard or did i put them on...
sorry that its not On Topic...
Defect for haveing no water in the windscreen wash... really?
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