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Ecotec into BMW
Hey guys been thinking about dropping an ecotec engine into a 1986 BMW 318i. Just wondering does the ECU need to be wired to the dash cluster? If it dose is there any way around it? Has anyone on here put an ecotec into a different car? Eg. Not a holden. Or is there away to not use an ECU?
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Quite a few Hilux utes running ecotecs, so there must be a way.
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I seen a BMW on carpoint with an ecotec in it.
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My G/F has her old BMW that she loves but the 4 cylinder is a piece of s*&t. ecotec's are really cheap, there is one down the road with a 4 speed auto attached for $75. So we thought why not buy it and drop it in. lol
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i would imagine a bit of rooting about, like drive-shaft, engine mounts, wiring and such.
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the vn-vs v8 ecu does not need to go to the cluster to start the engine so i would say v6 would be the same,
though a wire from your Holden loom has to go to the volt gauge(cluster) to charge you alternator, though that won't stop it starting.
i say give it ago wouldn't be to much in it once you get the engine and gear box mounts sorted and if your going with an auto box run a vn ecu much easier, then you wont need gearbox wiring.
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Pretty sure its do able , you just need a few things to put them into a rodeo/hilux and like a bcm faker thing
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Don't put a shit engine in a shit car. At least put a ls1 in it, or just buy a commodore lol
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I wouldn't be calling it a shit car. Doesn't look to shabby, certainly better looking than anything Holden produced in the following 10 years. It weighs about 400kg less. ANd frankly I would rather have a beamer with an Ecotec than a Commodore with an Ecotec.Originally Posted by mzak89
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
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Well.....in my opinion anyway
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
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Seen a couple of Nissan Vans with the ecotec conversion done, so yeah, it should be possible, but i'd say that you would need an engineers report though.
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Well if you can find a LS1 with trans for $75 or less ill buy it and put it in. Its for a little BMW and i dont think my G/F needs a V8 in a car that is stock with a straight 4.
Cheers mate for the link it looks very helpful.Pretty sure its do able , you just need a few things to put them into a rodeo/hilux and like a bcm faker thing
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I thought beemers were heavy as f+%& ??? The ones ive managed to have driven have weighed a tonne and are slow as all hell... ?
Good luck with the conversion mate,will the auto 4 line up in the same spot as the existing trans?
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Cars were, in general, a bit lighter 25 years ago
But anyway, 1986 BMW 3 E30 Sedan series 1/2 specs, performance, photo & data , they are actually 1000-1040kg, huh even lighter than I thought. So they are about 500-600kg lighter than a Commodore, faster again.
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James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
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I think that weight if for the 4 door model we have the 2 door.Cars were, in general, a bit lighter 25 years ago
But anyway, 1986 BMW 3 E30 Sedan series 1/2 specs, performance, photo & data , they are actually 1000-1040kg, huh even lighter than I thought. So they are about 500-600kg lighter than a Commodore, faster again.
Not sure how the trans will line up we still have to do alot of measuring to do.
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They quote the same weight for the 2 or 4 door models. Weight difference would be negligible.
Original engine, 77kW@5800rpm and 145Nm@4500rpm. Ecotec 152kW@5200rpm and 305Nm@3600rpm. Not a bad little upgrade.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
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Pictures are better than words. This was at the QLD street car flood fundraiser earlier this year. It was out on the track and it's a ####ing weapon.
This guy has a turbo buick in this. Pretty sure he has a feature in QLD street Car mag as well. To answer your question it can be done and theirs your tool.
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Lol, it's an EFI engine, so unless you want to convert it to carby, it needs an ECU...
Easiest way is to just use the Commodore ECU + BCM, ignition barrel, keys etc since they are all linked in together.
You could use an aftermarket ECU, but i'd imagine that would be much more of a headache to get complianced because you'd have to get it emissions tested etc. Not to mention that an aftermarket ECU is going to cost $$$$, plus paying someone to tune it if you don't know how.
Btw, there are way better engines to put in an E30, and would require considerably less effort to swap - not having to dick around with wiring looms, aircon, power steering, simpler compliancing etc. Why not get a wrecked 323/325/328/330i for the BMW 6cyl?
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