l67 Engines enquiry

[letthiswork1]

Hey Guys,

Excuse my ignorance but is anyone able to shed some light on L67 engines. What is the difference between these and the stock in the vy s 03?

I am looking at putting one in my.car as everyone says its the best thing to do. I figure since my current engine has done 175,000 k's. Would be nice to put a new engine in my car with room to grow!

I have trolled through wiki pedis and looking for a bit more of a direct answer.

Thanks heaps guys

[Drawnnite]

ok so this is the basics.

your Vy S pack should have an Ecotec in it. (no forced induction)
the L67 is the Factory supercharged motor from holden.

there are many threads on here about the pro's and cons about them.
and also how to transplant them.
and how to upgrade them to make them better (eg intercoolers)

[VRCALAISS]

They're a pretty awesome engine I'll putting one in mine,you should be able to bolt the top half straight on your n/a bottom.

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[scvs6]

Watch out, heaps of members on this forum are going to ask you why your wasting your time and money and why don't you just get a V8 etc. I say go for it, you can still get plenty of power out of a L67

The engine will still bolt up to the K-Frame the same and the Transmission will bolt up the same, you will just need to change the Engine Wiring Loom and ECU, but thats easy to do.

Go to l67torque.com as there is heaps of information about those engines on there, it's offline at the moment but should be back after new years.

They're a pretty awesome engine I'll putting one in mine,you should be able to bolt the top half straight on your n/a bottom.

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Haha. Yeah you could do that but how long will the bottom end last. Plus the engine number is going to be for a N/A V6 not a L67.

[Drawnnite]

what ^ (above) has said.

but get ready for the S/charged L67 vs Turbo debate =P

[VRCALAISS]

Watch out, heaps of members on this forum are going to ask you why your wasting your time and money and why don't you just get a V8 etc. I say go for it, you can still get plenty of power out of a L67

The engine will still bolt up to the K-Frame the same and the Transmission will bolt up the same, you will just need to change the Engine Wiring Loom and ECU, but thats easy to do.

Go to l67torque.com as there is heaps of information about those engines on there, it's offline at the moment but should be back after new years.



Haha. Yeah you could do that but how long will the bottom end last. Plus the engine number is going to be for a N/A V6 not a L67.

to me it wouldn't be the same you wouldn't be able to get the same power out of the n/a bottom i say get the whole engine.an i agree ignore the ones who tell you it's a waste of time,it's not.

[VRCALAISS]

what ^ (above) has said.

but get ready for the S/charged L67 vs Turbo debate =P

you can't compare the two lol

[scvs6]

what ^ (above) has said.

but get ready for the S/charged L67 vs Turbo debate =P

I was talking about the L67 vs V8 debate haha.

[VRCALAISS]

I was talking about the L67 vs V8 debate haha.

l67 is win over a 5ltr in my books lol

[scvs6]

l67 is win over a 5ltr in my books lol

The reason I converted my VS to a L67 instead of a V8.

[VRCALAISS]

The reason I converted my VS to a L67 instead of a V8.

i bet you've raced a few 5ltrs with it lol

[scvs6]

i bet you've raced a few 5ltrs with it lol

Haha to be honest I haven't driven it much at all since I done the conversion (I would love to go for a drive everyday if I could), but my dad drove it and he said it feels like it has more power then his VR Statesman which is a 5.0L V8.

[FstStig]

I was always under the impression that if you Bolt a L67 Top half onto a stock Ecotec bottom end it will have to much compression?

[fjwb]

I have an L67 in an FJ Holden which only weighs about 1100 kg, a fantastic engine for such a car, considering most V8's are out of the question due to the modification rules these days.
I love my V8's but the L67 is also one of my favourites.
They must be getting a bit harder to find these days, they have not made new ones for quite a while.

[letthiswork1]

Wow all so keen.

So these are second hand motors that just bolt on the top half of my engine??
Where would be the best place to go looking for it?

also pretty sure these engine's cannot be driven by P platers either?

Thanks for the great responses

[scvs6]

Wow all so keen.

So these are second hand motors that just bolt on the top half of my engine??
Where would be the best place to go looking for it?

also pretty sure these engine's cannot be driven by P platers either?

Thanks for the great responses

I wouldn't recommend just changing the top half of the engine, replace the whole engine just to be safe.

Like Black_Stig said, I think they have different compression.

[SM1D3Y]

Do a few simple mods to a l67 ( 10 psi pulley, CAI, rockers and extractors and you'll be happy with the result l67 v V8 debate is all personal opinion, both have pro's and con's

[VRCALAISS]

I wouldn't recommend just changing the top half of the engine, replace the whole engine just to be safe.

Like Black_Stig said, I think they have different compression.

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[scvs6]

also pretty sure these engine's cannot be driven by P platers either?

No you can't drive them on P-Plates, unless you're in WA I think, hence why I haven't been able to drive mine.

[letthiswork1]

Great so I am looking at about 2k for a complete swap right??

[scvs6]

Great so I am looking at about 2k for a complete swap right??

Price depends on a few of things.

1. How many kilometres the engine has done.
2. Where you buy the engine from.
3. What comes with the engine (Transmission, all bolt ons, wiring loom, ECU, etc).

Now I bought my Supercharged V6 (L67) engine from a wreckers, it came with all bolt ons, Transmission, wiring loom, ECU, and I paid $2400 for the lot. It came out of a VY Calais with 134,000kms, so the wiring loom and ECU were useless to me so i'm probably going to sell them in the future.

You might be able to buy just an engine but most of the wreckers will more then likely sell it as a conversion kit, or will try and sell everything together.

Another thing you need to consider is if you are going to replace anything on the engine, or just swap it over and leave it how it is. My conversion ended up costing heaps because I sent the engine away to get fully reconditioned. When I first bought it, I was just going to change the gaskets on it but decided just to be safe to get everything replaced.

To get a general idea on prices, have a look on eBay, even ring a few wreckers in your area and see if they can help you out. And also you might want to think about selling your ecotec V6, so the money you get from that can go towards the L67 as well.

I know that you can still use your current A/C compressor (so make sure you don't disconnect the gas lines), but in my opinion, VY's should be an easy car to convert. It only took me 2 days to convert my VS and there was more stuffing around I had to do and a couple of parts I had to order in once it was done like the air intake ducting.

[letthiswork1]

Thanks for the detailed response Superchargedvs6.

My only concern is buying one of these l67's with 110,000 kms could have a lot of wear and tear.
Would it be worth getting some work done to it once i bought it?

How much would i get for a Ecotec with 200,00kms on it? (Assuming i put another 15,000 before conversion).
I must admit i was considering getting this done as i have limited knowledge of how it really works under the bonnet but have made the decision that it is worth trying to learn