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[minux]

Helly, Quick question

3 cars heading in the same direction down the same road, all doing 20 km/h over the legal limit, which one do you pull over, why etc etc?

[pacey]

Helly, Quick question

3 cars heading in the same direction down the same road, all doing 20 km/h over the legal limit, which one do you pull over, why etc etc?

Ohh tough one! It depends really. Are all three vehicles detected via radar or is the first one detected and the other two are assumed to be doing the same speed. If all three are detected, I'd attempt to get ahead of all three, pull over and pull the three vehicles to the side of the road (if possible), otherwise I'd just pull the vehicle that was detected by radar.

I'll be here all night if anyone wishes to expand on this!

Cheers

[EXCESSV]

I wont argue with you on the bad roads and whole revenue raising stuff, but for me(this is my opinion only) you would be better off spending a few hundred on a decent cruise control unit. Unfortunatly being 5-7 k over the limit is over the limit. What i dont understand is why bad roads would warrant you having a radar detector, shouldnt you be slowing down on these bad roads?

i am aware that it is still over the limit.
i understand that it is your opinion and i value it but for me, cruise is something that i wouldnt use much coz most of my driving is around town/suburbs and when i am on the freeway there are that many d***heads that do below 20km/hr on the freeway that you spend most of your time braking and accelerating. no matter what time of day you can never get a clear run on freeways. ppl dont understand 'KEEP LEFT'
Perth is a small place and we only have a couple of freeways and a couple of hwys.
if i did regular trips up north or south for holidays then cruise would be worth it but i dont.

i didnt get it for the reason of the bad roads but for the reason below as i stated in a reply on page 13. i wont go into details again but you can scroll up and have a read if you like

i only got mine recently and the only reason was because i was having insurance problems with my car.

[minux]

Ohh tough one! It depends really. Are all three vehicles detected via radar or is the first one detected and the other two are assumed to be doing the same speed. If all three are detected, I'd attempt to get ahead of all three, pull over and pull the three vehicles to the side of the road (if possible), otherwise I'd just pull the vehicle that was detected by radar.

I'll be here all night if anyone wishes to expand on this!

Cheers

Wouldnt that be cosidered dangerous trying to flag down 3 cars?

Ok next q, what do you let most drivers get away with speed wise?

My brother in law who is in traf management gives up to 115 km/h in a 100 zone, 90 in a 80 zone, no tolerance in 40/50/60/70 zones. Personally thats how id like to see most police handle it, way i see it, 100km hr zones can have more tolerance due to their openess, in slow zones, i think anyone who speeds is an idiot, 1 click of cruise control below zone limit in 40/50/60 and 70 zones for me

[Insanesinner]

Wouldnt that be cosidered dangerous trying to flag down 3 cars?

Ok next q, what do you let most drivers get away with speed wise?

My brother in law who is in traf management gives up to 115 km/h in a 100 zone, 90 in a 80 zone, no tolerance in 40/50/60/70 zones. Personally thats how id like to see most police handle it, way i see it, 100km hr zones can have more tolerance due to their openess, in slow zones, i think anyone who speeds is an idiot, 1 click of cruise control below zone limit in 40/50/60 and 70 zones for me

Should br like the Northern Territory you do what ever speed u want on the highway

[minux]

Should br like the Northern Territory you do what ever speed u want on the highway

lol, try driving at 180km/h on the melbourne rd between geelong and melbourne at 5-6pm on a weekday. I do however beleive there should be timed speed limits eg 100 between 6am and 9 pm and 120 other times

[ucwepn]

Hi just a quick question for ya, Are P platers supposed to be driving turbo cars? I keep seeing them in WRX's and skylines and I thought that there were power restictions for them??If so do you guys enforce them?

[hakhawk]

ok, i got pulled over the other day because the police officer assumed i was speeding, only thing was, they were coming towards me, and i was going uphill, this is in a 60 zone, i slowed down for traffic lights then came back up to 60k's. when i was pulled over shortly after, the officer tol me she had the ability to tell what speed someone was doing, i didnt break 60 on speedo at anytime, sat on 55 average, my speedo is about 3ks out and i have a gps which gives me quite accurate speeds, except on hills, where its 1-2ks out, so i know roughly how far out my speedo is.

and she said about me slowing down, uhh, traffic lights. let me off with a warning and breath test.

so, my question is, can you guys tell what speed someone is doing when theyre travelling towards you?

oh, and a few other things, i have clear tail lights on my wagon, and the red globes i had to use glowed pinkish colour, could i get defected for the colour? and i have recently bought red and amber LED globes for it, red is now red, but during the day, doesnt fully light up the whole lens where the standard globes would, defect?

one more thing, i have a pc setup in my car which i use for music and the gps, it has a screen where headunit goes, this is always on, so i can skip songs and view the gps, i dont watch movies or music visualisations, although it is possible to do.

what would be your ideas on this? i have been pulled over several times with this setup, and havent been commented on it.

[Shounak]

No.. You're post is just stupid.. I'd suggest deleting it..

[fabz]

hmm wot speeds would u guys chase people through inner city areas? the other nite cops started chasing us (my mate was hooning n stuff and i have a super loud exhaust and illegal tint) first they tried chasing me, so i gunned it and smoked em on a straight, then they chaserd him through the inner city area of the place doing 160, isnt this just stupid?

ha ha Wanker alert LMAO if that was my "friend" i would do two things..
1) beat the living daylights outta him when we stopped.
2) Drag his sorry beaten arse to a cop shop.
Friend or no friend, do that shit with me and you would wish you crashed!!

[Just_Ice]

Oh no, this is all hypothetical.. Let's assume I'm talking on a mobile phone (w/o a handsfree), a copper drives past and see's me in the act..

He subsequently pulls me over and writes me a ticket for talking on a mobile phone..

Neither of us really have any proof that the other person is lying (or telling the truth).. He says I was.. I say I wasn't.. Producing a phone record maybe useless as I could've been receiving a call..

Any idea what would happen in such an instance?

You can get whats called a reverse CCR, that wil show all incoming coming calls. You can also get records to show outgoing........ So it would be very easy to prove........

[minux]

ok, i got pulled over the other day because the police officer assumed i was speeding, only thing was, they were coming towards me, and i was going uphill, this is in a 60 zone, i slowed down for traffic lights then came back up to 60k's. when i was pulled over shortly after, the officer tol me she had the ability to tell what speed someone was doing, i didnt break 60 on speedo at anytime, sat on 55 average, my speedo is about 3ks out and i have a gps which gives me quite accurate speeds, except on hills, where its 1-2ks out, so i know roughly how far out my speedo is.

and she said about me slowing down, uhh, traffic lights. let me off with a warning and breath test.

so, my question is, can you guys tell what speed someone is doing when theyre travelling towards you?

oh, and a few other things, i have clear tail lights on my wagon, and the red globes i had to use glowed pinkish colour, could i get defected for the colour? and i have recently bought red and amber LED globes for it, red is now red, but during the day, doesnt fully light up the whole lens where the standard globes would, defect?

one more thing, i have a pc setup in my car which i use for music and the gps, it has a screen where headunit goes, this is always on, so i can skip songs and view the gps, i dont watch movies or music visualisations, although it is possible to do.

what would be your ideas on this? i have been pulled over several times with this setup, and havent been commented on it.

LMFAO "the officer tol me she had the ability to tell what speed someone was doing" thats hilarious

[Just_Ice]

LMFAO "the officer tol me she had the ability to tell what speed someone was doing" thats hilarious

You couldn't right a ticket for an estimate speed, and thats probably why you didn't get one........

Once you have been doing it for a while though you can usually get within 5km... When set up on the Highway we use to guess speeds before we put the radar on.......

[minux]

Ludacris, its not an ability though, its just a guess. Hell, after 3 years as a sniper i still had trouble judging distance speeds of vehicles etc, and that was with expert training on the subject

[Just_Ice]

Yeah I know thats its not an ability...... And that is exactly why the guy wasn't given a ticket.... you couldn't do it.....

What I am saying though is that in court if you have been doing something for a long time ie traffic work, evidence such as estimated speeds are accepted as evidence..... (obviously not for speeding offences) but may you give evidence that you see someone go through a stop sign at 80km/h.... it will be disputed by Lawyers etc but its up to the magistrate if he accepts it.....

[hakhawk]

thanks for that guys, got any other ideas on my other questions there?

[pacey]

Wouldnt that be cosidered dangerous trying to flag down 3 cars?

Ok next q, what do you let most drivers get away with speed wise?

My brother in law who is in traf management gives up to 115 km/h in a 100 zone, 90 in a 80 zone, no tolerance in 40/50/60/70 zones. Personally thats how id like to see most police handle it, way i see it, 100km hr zones can have more tolerance due to their openess, in slow zones, i think anyone who speeds is an idiot, 1 click of cruise control below zone limit in 40/50/60 and 70 zones for me

Yes, I would consider that dangerous, but what part of our job isn't? The individual officer would have to make a risk assessment when dealing with that one.

Pretty much spot on, with 100km speed limits anything in the range of 101 - about 110km/h I would consider letting the driver off (notice the word CONSIDER), and yeah zero tolerance on 40/50/60/70 zones as these are usually built up areas (or roadworks) and it is more dangerous to exceed the speed limit (not that going 110 in 100 zone is safer... no such thing as safe speeding) sorry, had to put that plug in! I say "Well Done" to those who resist the need to speed in slower zones.

Cheers

[pacey]

Hi just a quick question for ya, Are P platers supposed to be driving turbo cars? I keep seeing them in WRX's and skylines and I thought that there were power restictions for them??If so do you guys enforce them?

I can't say for VicRoads but in NSW any vehicle that is high powered (Supercharged etc), P Platers are NOT permitted to drive. This legislation came in a few months ago, but again, this is in NSW not VIC.

Cheers

[minux]

i can answer ucwepn's post, no they arent. It sucks when one of these little shits hits you too, because their insurance becomes void

I say "Well Done" to those who resist the need to speed in slower zones.

Thats why cruise control should be mandatory in all cars, there is no excuse for speeding then. I use cruise everywhere except in busy slow traffic, use it in 40 zones 50 etc its great to see people waving their arms in the rear view because they wanna do 60 in the 40 zone

[pacey]

Sorry and another one I've got 18's on my VL will you guys defect me for this? even though there is no rubbing on bodywork because its not lowered.
Thanks.

I wouldn't. That'll look awesome..Any Pics?

But seriously, you MAY get defected, it depends on the individual officer, it is a defectable modification. Just stay out of trouble and you shouldn't have any problems with Defect Notices.

Just a note. ANY modifications made to a vehicle, an engineers report / certificate must accompany the modification (In NSW). Modifications are anything taken from, customised or added to the vehicle after it comes from the factory, but I guess everyone knows that!!

Cheers

[pacey]

LMFAO "the officer tol me she had the ability to tell what speed someone was doing" thats hilarious

There was a bit of a dispute over this a while back. NO, police officers cannot judge the speed you are travelling, they can only ascertain whether or not the vehicle appears to be exceeding the limit and use this as grounds to pull the vehicle over. Under no circumstances will police issue a speeding ticket for this. The only other way is via a "speed check" which is where the police vehicle follows the offending vehicle for an X amount of time over a Y amount of distance and the offending must maintain this speed for that time, hence, police follow at the same speed where a check is done from the police vehicles speedo.

Hope that helps.

[hakhawk]

yeh, i knew about the follw them thng to get a speed, but when travelling opposite direction towards them, both doing around 60, a little hard me thinks.

but yeh, i "think" the main reason is p plater, and the pc shop i left, before leaving, their car cruised past, slowed down while passing my car, and i think they just pulled me over for the hell of it, www.hakhawk.co.nr have a look at the pics, and tell me if you think my car is worth pulling over to inspect for a defect. they havent commented on cannon muffler yet either.

oh, and time was around 6.30 pm

[pacey]

but yeh, i "think" the main reason is p plater, and the pc shop i left, before leaving, their car cruised past, slowed down while passing my car, and i think they just pulled me over for the hell of it, www.hakhawk.co.nr have a look at the pics, and tell me if you think my car is worth pulling over to inspect for a defect. they havent commented on cannon muffler yet either.

oh, and time was around 6.30 pm

they must have thought you were a shady character or something, I've pulled vehicles over leaving shops but only during the night and if they were driving s*** boxes, but as we all know, commodores rule and no matter whats modified they belong on the road. But no mate, I can't see any reason for them to pull you over except for the reason specified earlier......are you a shady character?

[minux]

i can answer ucwepn's post, no they arent. It sucks when one of these little shits hits you too, because their insurance becomes void

I say "Well Done" to those who resist the need to speed in slower zones.

Thats why cruise control should be mandatory in all cars, there is no excuse for speeding then. I use cruise everywhere except in busy slow traffic, use it in 40 zones 50 etc its great to see people waving their arms in the rear view because they wanna do 60 in the 40 zone

[hakhawk]

lol, nope, but they got me around the block from shop, after i left. i need to get some tint i reckon, stop them seeing me, i mean dude, i wear glasses and a cap.